Andrew Wilson - Economic advisor to Nicola Sturgeon

[noahrab]

Think there might be something your friends assertion Deeranged but there has never been an explanation how the deficit can be overcome. GERS figures are supposed to show the size of the deficit but the nationalists dispute the validity of the calculation. I can't remember the name of the report that made clear the oil revenues were enough to make Scotland a wealthy nation. It was done to deprive the Nationalist movement of this fact that made independence a prosperous probability, possibly even a certainty.
Oil prospects have plummeted and so the additional tax revenues are not available. I think that Andrew Wilson's report was very disappointing for the economic case for independence. In fairness to him he has retained his credibility by creating a realistic report which is to be praised.
I don't know why the independence economists can't produce a convincing case, so I am still in the doubting side of the discussion.

6yrs on and they still can’t tell us what currency we’d use if independent.

Hardly inspiring.

[BCram]

Yes. It does seem odd that there isn't a case that has academic rigour to support it.

[islaydarkblue]

Think there might be something your friends assertion Deeranged but there has never been an explanation how the deficit can be overcome. GERS figures are supposed to show the size of the deficit but the nationalists dispute the validity of the calculation. I can't remember the name of the report that made clear the oil revenues were enough to make Scotland a wealthy nation. It was done to deprive the Nationalist movement of this fact that made independence a prosperous probability, possibly even a certainty.
Oil prospects have plummeted and so the additional tax revenues are not available. I think that Andrew Wilson's report was very disappointing for the economic case for independence. In fairness to him he has retained his credibility by creating a realistic report which is to be praised.
I don't know why the independence economists can't produce a convincing case, so I am still in the doubting side of the discussion.

A couple of weeks after the latest GERS figures were published I asked the woman who runs the shop where I purchase my Sunday Times what she was saying about these figures. This person is very pro independence and is quick to try to sell me the pro independence newspaper The National.
She replied that the latest GERS figures were Westminster propaganda and a pack of lies.
This is the mentality of the pro independence supporters. They think that everything will be wonderful in a ‘Brigadoon’ independent Scotland.
In my opinion they are living in ‘dream world’.

[noahrab]

A couple of weeks after the latest GERS figures were published I asked the woman who runs the shop where I purchase my Sunday Times what she was saying about these figures. This person is very pro independence and is quick to try to sell me the pro independence newspaper The National.
She replied that the latest GERS figures were Westminster propaganda and a pack of lies.
This is the mentality of the pro independence supporters. They think that everything will be wonderful in a ‘Brigadoon’ independent Scotland.
In my opinion they are living in ‘dream world’.

These are the people you’ll never convince.

They want independence because they hate the English.

Its as basic as that.

[Deeranged]

A couple of weeks after the latest GERS figures were published I asked the woman who runs the shop where I purchase my Sunday Times what she was saying about these figures. This person is very pro independence and is quick to try to sell me the pro independence newspaper The National.
She replied that the latest GERS figures were Westminster propaganda and a pack of lies.
This is the mentality of the pro independence supporters. They think that everything will be wonderful in a ‘Brigadoon’ independent Scotland.
In my opinion they are living in ‘dream world’.

It certainly seems to be the mentality of the pro independence lady who runs the shop where you purchase your Sunday Times. It's a bit much to say all pro independence supporters think the same way though.

[Deeranged]

Well that was easy

[noahrab]

Yes. It does seem odd that there isn't a case that has academic rigour to support it.

Maybe because there isn’t one.

[Returnofrros]

Taxes, NI. That's not just income tax and you need to consider VAT, Corporation Tax and Import / Export Tax and anything else currently paid to HMRC. As I've stated elsewhere the amount sent varies dependent on which side's analysis you read and the truth will be somewhere in the middle.

I have no issues with Shetlanders looking for 'independence' from Scotland, would be a cracking case study for Scotland, but to declare they are sick of the Scottish Government centralising everything in Edinburgh whilst looking to be governed by a London centric government seems a bit at odds with the whole concept.

Like Scots saying they are sick of Westminster but wishing to be governed by Europe.

[noahrab]

Like Scots saying they are sick of Westminster but wishing to be governed by Europe.

Whilst happy to take furlough money from Westminster.

[Deeranged]

Like Scots saying they are sick of Westminster but wishing to be governed by Europe.

Correct, all or nothing for me.

**** England, **** Wales and **** Europe. I like the Irish though.