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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by baggieal View Post
    Spraying handles is as good as a chocolate tea pot if visitors have Covid but don’t know it yet through a lateral flow. Don’t forget a person can be infectious a couple of days before they test positive!

    If you are going to get it - you will get it!

    Life is for living as tomorrow might never come for anyone being ultra careful anyway with anything!
    Hi, it's like everything in life, you can look back reflect and also in hindsight do things different.
    When the lockdown started, I remember my wife looking at me and saying are we going to get through this, she looked terrified .
    A week later I had a letter of my GP , saying I was classed as vulnerable then early in April 2020 a mate died.
    This freaked my wife out, so that's why we took this aproach.
    I have no fear of dying, only how my wife will cope. I feel blessed that my wife, is so concerned about my health.
    It's been a hard 2 years and when you are getting older it's 2 years wasted.
    For me it's showed the world in a selfish light and greed, fraud from too many people ' but then the full of praise the caring, hard workers on the front line deserve.
    But now is the time to start living again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by regis80 View Post
    Yeah but there are a number of credible doctors on infectious diseases who have been either muted/or not been able to put their viewpoint across to MSM since the start of the pandemic. In this particular video by Dr Campbell he’s only going through statistics, which is something anyone can do and you don’t need to be a doctor to make the points he makes. Okay, there might be some context taken out, but stats are stats? Right?

    I’ve read he’s in nursing.. but he seriously wouldn’t mislead people adding Dr to his name? I’m guessing he’s a doctors in some other field? Anyway, he seems to be talking sense regarding the number of deaths against attributed to covid and those not. I just don’t get why he’s being attacked. Okay he goes on youtube.. he’s not exactly your average jinfluencer type.
    Have a quick Wikipedia search of the guy and you will see what I mean about his contribution towards Covid misinformation.

    He’s smart enough to understand his role in the wider public health by the context of his videos. He has 50 million views.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baggiematt View Post
    Have a quick Wikipedia search of the guy and you will see what I mean about his contribution towards Covid misinformation.

    He’s smart enough to understand his role in the wider public health by the context of his videos. He has 50 million views.
    I did see the wikipedia page but if i’m honest that looks like someone did a botched job of an attempt in trying to describe him, particularly just slamming him about what he said about ivermectin drug.. which I don’t think he was endorsing at that time. He’s not that type.
    A few pages in google search you’ll get this article https://www.insider.com/youtube-nurs...eos-2020-3?amp

    Then he’s got some amazon links for books he’s written for nursing study. He started his channel way before the pandemic to upload his tutorials and since the pandemic he has covered covid. The thing that has drawn droves of people to him is his calm demeanour, when reporting daily stats. he’s not an anti vaxxer because he’s there helping.. he even made a video of washing hands. He doesn’t exaggerate the numbers like the media have been and his sources are from reliable sources such as ONS and CDC. I don’t think he’s the person you describe him as.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulman101 View Post
    Hi, it's like everything in life, you can look back reflect and also in hindsight do things different.
    When the lockdown started, I remember my wife looking at me and saying are we going to get through this, she looked terrified .
    A week later I had a letter of my GP , saying I was classed as vulnerable then early in April 2020 a mate died.
    This freaked my wife out, so that's why we took this aproach.
    I have no fear of dying, only how my wife will cope. I feel blessed that my wife, is so concerned about my health.
    It's been a hard 2 years and when you are getting older it's 2 years wasted.
    For me it's showed the world in a selfish light and greed, fraud from too many people ' but then the full of praise the caring, hard workers on the front line deserve.
    But now is the time to start living again.


    Hi Lloyd

    Totally 100% agree with your sentiments and similar story my end. Your wife sounds one in a million!

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    This does my head in, it’s like denying the Holocaust, so what if the bulk of people who died had underlying health issues, I bet most on here over 50 have some issue or other, I have medication for a blood pressure issue and arthritis, the question is would these people still be alive if they hadn’t contracted COVID? My father in law died in hospital with no one able to see him, they wouldn’t even let my wife in and she is a nurse, yes he had an underlying health issue, but he loved life was a good bloke to talk too and certainly diddnt deserve to go the way he did! Would love for this charlatan to have spent a month in one of the old folks homes round here during the peak of the pandemic! The body bags were flying out of the doors two and three at a time!

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    It's called cognitive dissonance.

    People have to justify themselves irrelevant of facts.

    So if you got jabbed you have to prove it was the right thing to do and you have to reject all counter arguments usually not with facts but with ad hominem criticisms.

    So the arguments are futile but eventually the realities will out- & they are all bad

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    Quote Originally Posted by bordering View Post
    It's called cognitive dissonance.

    People have to justify themselves irrelevant of facts.

    So if you got jabbed you have to prove it was the right thing to do and you have to reject all counter arguments usually not with facts but with ad hominem criticisms.

    So the arguments are futile but eventually the realities will out- & they are all bad
    No Bordering. It’s called confirmation bias, when you have such a strong view on something you only find facts to support it not the full picture. It’s funny isn’t it, you often find those who don’t believe in the vaccine, also don’t buy into restrictions, masks etc..

    Did you know Dr Campbell also supports mask wearing and other measures? But that doesn’t support your narrative. So is this guy credible or not?

    My issue with YouTube docs is that it’s one way. No one can challenge, he can’t go into detail and it isn’t peer reviewed. You can basically say what you want and strap the word Doctor to it and make it a ‘fact’. Watch the video; what he says, what he doesn’t say and then read the comments to see how folk have interpreted it. How you present facts is important for how it’s interpreted.

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    Have you noticed lots of unexpected deaths recently and a precise cause of death never seems to be given?

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