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    Quote Originally Posted by Returnofrros View Post
    Difficult to play with a straight bat when Linda and the sycophants are bowling googlies.

    A considerable number tried to tell them that and they have wasted a helluva lot of time.

    I am now almost certain we will become homeless, whether very temporarily, longer term or permanently is yet to be seen.

    I don not think the yanks will respect the A shares.
    The Dee4life members should have been given the details of the Letter Signed ‘Dundee Football Club Ltd’ shortly after the Dee4life board of directors received it instead of hiding it hoping that they would get their Primary representative on the Dundee Football Club Limited board of directors under Rules 79-82 of the DFC Ltd Articles of Association (not Articles of Incorporation which were stated in the Letter).
    I wanted to tell the Dee4life members what had happened but I was outvoted.
    This is the main reason why I resigned as a Dee4life Director on Friday 20th January 2023.
    I was elected to represent the Dee4life members and not to hide important information from them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Returnofrros View Post
    Difficult to play with a straight bat when Linda and the sycophants are bowling googlies.

    A considerable number tried to tell them that and they have wasted a helluva lot of time.

    I am now almost certain we will become homeless, whether very temporarily, longer term or permanently is yet to be seen.

    I don not think the yanks will respect the A shares.
    The yanks are currently not respecting the entrenched rights of A shares by ensuring that Dundee Football Club Limited do not have debts in excess of £50,000 at the end of their financial year ending 31st May annually. The last time I looked at the DFC Ltd annual accounts of the Companies House website Dundee Football Club Limited had debts of around £2.8 million pounds.
    They will not accept the Dee4life board of directors nomination of Kenny Valentine as their Primary representative.
    Dee4life as also entitled to their Secondary representative on the DFC Ltd board of directors which used to be Bob Hynd until he resigned as a Dee4life director at the end of June 2020.

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    Playing with a straight bat is exactly how you should deal with googlies!!!

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    As far as being homeless us concerned, why would that be in our owners best financial interests? Genuine question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCram View Post
    As far as being homeless us concerned, why would that be in our owners best financial interests? Genuine question.
    I think it's irrelevant to them as far as DFC are concerned.......renting from Bennett to renting from dabs, st j, Arbroath is inconsequential to them........it isn't to us.

    So many promises not kept and now we cud very well be homeless soon.

    Exactly what shaded and others warned about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Returnofrros View Post
    I think it's irrelevant to them as far as DFC are concerned.......renting from Bennett to renting from dabs, st j, Arbroath is inconsequential to them........it isn't to us.

    So many promises not kept and now we cud very well be homeless soon.

    Exactly what shaded and others warned about.
    I do not think that we will soon be homeless as a year ago rumours were sweeping Dundee that John Nelms had purchased Dens Park from Sandeman Properties Limited.
    I believe that this is another case of delaying tactics by John Nelms to avoid submitting Dark Blue Property Holdings Limited’s full planning application to Dundee City Council for their new stadium development at the former NCR Camperdown grounds.
    This time last year Nelms stated that their planning application would be submitted to Dundee City Council by the end of March but he did not state which year.
    In April 2023 he stated that the traffic information from 2017 was now out of date and it would have to be recalculated result in a delay of a couple of months.
    Now almost six months later we have not heard a cheep about the planning application for the new stadium development in the former NCR Camperdown grounds until the article in the Courier last week which almost coincided with the first anniversary of the second pre application meeting held in the Landmark Hotel on Monday 26th September 2022.

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    I enclose the DFC Ltd annual accounts for the year ending 31st May 2022 which are available to be read in the Club section of the Dundee Football Club website. https://dundeefc.co.uk/wp-content/up...2023-05-29.pdf
    Item 14 in the notes to the accounts lists outstanding loans of £1,992,431 payable to FPS and £365,122 payable to DBPH.
    This equates to outstanding loans totalling £2,357,553 which is somewhat in excess of the maximum £50,000 in loans stated in the entrenched rights of the A shares.

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    Quote Originally Posted by islaydarkblue View Post
    I do not think that we will soon be homeless as a year ago rumours were sweeping Dundee that John Nelms had purchased Dens Park from Sandeman Properties Limited.
    I believe that this is another case of delaying tactics by John Nelms to avoid submitting Dark Blue Property Holdings Limited’s full planning application to Dundee City Council for their new stadium development at the former NCR Camperdown grounds.
    This time last year Nelms stated that their planning application would be submitted to Dundee City Council by the end of March but he did not state which year.
    In April 2023 he stated that the traffic information from 2017 was now out of date and it would have to be recalculated result in a delay of a couple of months.
    Now almost six months later we have not heard a cheep about the planning application for the new stadium development in the former NCR Camperdown grounds until the article in the Courier last week which almost coincided with the first anniversary of the second pre application meeting held in the Landmark Hotel on Monday 26th September 2022.
    Is there anyway to find out if the new traffic survey or whatever it's called has been completed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Returnofrros View Post
    Is there anyway to find out if the new traffic survey or whatever it's called has been completed?
    I never heard any mention of the original traffic survey in 2017 so it is unlikely that the new traffic survey will have been completed.
    I remember something being mentioned at the second pre application meeting about a traffic survey having to be carried out by Transport Scotland.
    Hopefully Transport Scotland employees have the sense to carry out the survey on a Saturday afternoon during the football season on the A90 between the Myrekirk roundabout and the Strathmartine Road roundabout in both directions to ascertain how busy it is.
    I remember attending a Dee4life board of directors meeting as a non voting guest in Bon Hynd’s office where the new stadium development in the former NCR Camperdown grounds was discussed.
    Bob told us that the Scottish Government had changed the rules for accessing slip roads.
    He told us that the exit road from the Kingsway West retail park onto the slip road to the Crematorium roundabout would no longer be permitted.
    That is why the exit road along the existing Dayton Drive has had to be incorporated in the new plans which were on display at the second pre application meeting.
    He also told us that Police Scotland were insisted that everyone attending home games at the new stadium would have to park their cars in the new stadium car parks.
    Police Scotland did not want football supporters parking their cars in the housing scheme on the opposite side of the A90 Kingsway bypass
    Whether this is still the case who knows as the new plans on display at the second pre application meeting showed that the number of car parking spaces had been reduced from 1,362 to from memory 880.
    The number of spaces for football supporters coaches had been reduced from 60 to around 25.
    I remember hearing that there would only be enough car parking spaces in the new plans for Away supporters after car parking spaces were allocated for businesses in the new stadium development such the hotel, shops and the crematorium.
    It was also stated in the new plans that no cars would be allowed to leave the new stadium car parks after the end of the game until all the supporters coaches had left the stadium car parks.

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    Can't get excited about this line of attack on the Dee4life Board. Amazing, I thought they were on our side. Thought the DFC board were in the Dock for not communicating.

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