Longstaff's value

[Ragatino]

Manure must have quite a few "Rashford situations" on their books which need to be addressed before they can make a move forwards.

Rasmus H?jlund
Joshua Zirkzee
Mason Mount
Poundland Bruno
Casemiro
Victor Lindel?f
Matthijs de Ligt
Lisandro Martinez
Luke Shaw
Manuel Ugarte
Alejandro Garnacho

that's 11 'first team' players who either fans hate and don't think good enough or want to leave due to the project being a complete failure and catastrophically damaging to their careers.

All of them are on insane wages and the filth want silly money for this group of duds.

This ties in nicely with the Cunha & Delap discussion. You see the issue goes far beyond a couple of strikers.

Poundland Bruno wants out. When he goes they lose their Cabbage Patch era ASM equivalent and won't have the one player who can win them a match with a long range shot etc.

[Sclox]

That list is scary showing how many careers are ruined by Man Yoo. Personally I think 6 of those players have something about them but are totally in a CulDeSac at that club.

Riduculous

[ex_pat_magpie]

That list is scary showing how many careers are ruined by Man Yoo. Personally I think 6 of those players have something about them but are totally in a CulDeSac at that club.

Riduculous

Those careers and the club itself have been damaged, almost to the point of no repair, just by the attitude of that club, being that for far too long they have considered themselves invincible living on their past reputation of regular success.

Looking back their success began with Matt Busby, who built them from scratch, he was the best coach/manager they ever had.

Then there was the success they had under Fergie. In retrospect although he was a winner he wasn't in today's terms a good coach.

He was just a dominating successful bully who demanded winning whether it was from cheating, or fear of him by the players, or fear of him from the officials it worked for Manure much longer than it should have.

Just look back to not many years ago when City were building up, Fergie sneeringly referring to them as "the noisy neighbours"

And from all of those years back, now is the time of reckoning.

[Ragatino]

Those careers and the club itself have been damaged, almost to the point of no repair, just by the attitude of that club, being that for far too long they have considered themselves invincible living on their past reputation of regular success.

Looking back their success began with Matt Busby, who built them from scratch, he was the best coach/manager they ever had.

Then there was the success they had under Fergie. In retrospect although he was a winner he wasn't in today's terms a good coach.

He was just a dominating successful bully who demanded winning whether it was from cheating, or fear of him by the players, or fear of him from the officials it worked for Manure much longer than it should have.

Just look back to not many years ago when City were building up, Fergie sneeringly referring to them as "the noisy neighbours"

And from all of those years back, now is the time of reckoning.

Rome has fallen, empires come to an end. Legacies come to a conclusion.

The Fergie Legacy is over, they're never gonna get back there but their fans seem to think they have a god given right to titles and deserve Champions League every season.

No wonder they were so keen on the Super League and their fans weren't as vocal as the Liverpool, Chelsea fans or other clubs. Probably because they see themselves as above the Premier League, better than everyone else.

Wasn't it funny when the rain was pouring and the 'Old Trafford waterfall was on TV as they were taking a mauling. That perfectly sums up where they are as a club. Run down and in disrepair. Long may it continue.