Scottish Government moving the goalposts

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Arthur Donaldson.....didn't want to support "England" in Ww2....wanted to be leader of a puppet govt in Scotland under Nazi control.....if I mind right.

Well it was in the Express so of course it's completely true, let's not talk about the fact that half the English parliament were Nazi sympathisers and wanted a deal with Hitler.

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My take on Westminster is that the Scottish electorate were told in 2014 that the result would last a generation. I don't see the overwhelming polls that put independence as the settled will of the Scottish population. There's a difference between voting for the SNP and voting for independence.

Unfortunately the word 'generation' doesn't actually refer to a period of time but to a number of individuals so they made a right rip roaring Jim Delahunt of it by using that term in the first place.

100% agree that there is a difference between voting for independence and voting SNP. Right now I am a supporter of independence but can't see myself voting for an SNP headed by Sturgeon. I'm looking for a viable alternative to the SNP that will support and strive for independence for the nation of Scotland but can't see one so no votes at all from me I'm afraid.

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Yes, comment was aimed at you. The key word is bias.

You fight fire with fire on Dundee Mad

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My take on Westminster is that the Scottish electorate were told in 2014 that the result would last a generation. I don't see the overwhelming polls that put independence as the settled will of the Scottish population. There's a difference between voting for the SNP and voting for independence.

There was never an overwhelming support for a brexit referendum, it was agreed to have one to resolve a dispute in the tory party. In the end, it was 52% against 48% with 62% against in Scotland. Now the Scottish seafood industry is suffering badly, with exports down 83%, similar high numbers for farming exports. Brexit has been a total disaster which isn't a surprise.

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No evidence was ever produced and Donaldson was never charged.

The SNP were considered a subversive organisation at the time by the UK government. Their right to seek what was our nations right was batted down by Westminster even back then.

Donaldson was targeted because he argued against Scottish workers being sent to England against their will. That type of thing was called forced labour elsewhere in Europe at the time.

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Hannah Bardell MP and Mhari the gum rubber (saor teeth Mhari) Black both called for it today.

And a tory MP wants noisy Scots shipped off to the colonies like the good old days, Lisa Nandy MP wants a paramilitary police force in Scotland, ho hum.

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Were any of them members of the royal family who are supposedly role models for us all and who we're all expected to look up to and respect?

Didn't think so.

Did Phil The Greek not speak about spear chuckers?

Thing is even that photo's easy to take out of context simply on beliefs and conditions prevalent at the time. Some could argue that attributing an absolute belief in Nazi ideology to the English Royal Family by looking at that photo is as bad as pulling down statues of famous people throughout history simply because they did what had to be done, in their time and with the conditions prevalent when they lived, to further their own and the Empire's wealth.

Let's not forget that royal lives matter too.

Royal family is for head of state purposes only.....and for ceremonial duties.

Donaldson looks an incredibly dodgey character.

Elizabeth has been a fantastic head of state, her husband has also been fantastic.

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No evidence was ever produced and Donaldson was never charged.

The SNP were considered a subversive organisation at the time by the UK government. Their right to seek what was our nations right was batted down by Westminster even back then.

Still are

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Sorry but I'll call out Rangers supporters behaving badly any time I want, I don't give a phukk if that upsets you. Presuming your bizarre comments are aimed at me, of course.

Owned by Bcram....superb

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Well it was in the Express so of course it's completely true, let's not talk about the fact that half the English parliament were Nazi sympathisers and wanted a deal with Hitler.

Lol, you will find it in a lot of places.

Hitler youth monthly circa june 42 cover.
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