Match Thread vs. Chesterfield 01.03.22 [NL]

[Rainbowpie]

This isn’t what happened, though. Vincent was hooked at half-time at Wealdstone with us playing 3-5-2, then dropped for Bromley and Grimsby, when we played 3-5-2. By the time the formation switch came around he’d already been dumped.

I think people are focusing a bit too much on needing new players, anyway. It wouldn’t matter even if we did get them, because we approach every single situation in the same way. We play out from the back, and if it isn’t working, the answer is always that we just aren’t doing it well enough and never that our tactics aren’t right for the situation.

We got ourselves in a great position last night, 1-0 up away from home in a massive game with half an hour left. But we were coming under increasing pressure from a team pressing very, very high and loading our box to target the fact we only had Cameron who could win the ball in the air.

The solutions were IMO pretty obvious. Rawlinson on for Richardson to give us much more aerial defence, with Brindley shifting to right back to give us a solid back four. We don’t need overlapping runs in that situation. Then Nemane on for one of the three behind Wootton with instructions to keep running into the huge amount of space they were leaving.

Instead we brought on Brunt for Vincent, making the XI even smaller and less physical, kept giving the ball away thirty yards from our own goal trying to play it out, and inevitably crumbled. It was bizarre to watch.

I like our style of football, and it works in a lot of situations. My problem is that we’ve become completely dogmatic about it.

^ Spot on

[the_anticlough]

I kind of dreaded opening this thread after a day at work - thought it might be full of unrealistic calls for sweeping change of various kinds. In the end though there seems to be a general understanding that we're locked in to Burchitos Way this season...(barring a big time collapse where he'd be on his way, but that's highly unlikely)

IB's seems to be taking most of the flak but some of that should be directed more at recruitment for leaving us short of options, or extending players who we might on reflection have been wiser to replace (with players who could've contributed more)

Also those creative attacking players - the whole lot of them - who have shrunk and hidden away from home and failed to assert themselves game after game. Their level of performance is their responsibility first and foremost (Rubes and Woots must have single-handedly wrecked their future contract values with dips in form which will have sent the scouts scurrying elsewhere on the lookout for talent)

[SaltySeaDog]

This isn’t what happened, though. Vincent was hooked at half-time at Wealdstone with us playing 3-5-2, then dropped for Bromley and Grimsby, when we played 3-5-2. By the time the formation switch came around he’d already been dumped.

I think people are focusing a bit too much on needing new players, anyway. It wouldn’t matter even if we did get them, because we approach every single situation in the same way. We play out from the back, and if it isn’t working, the answer is always that we just aren’t doing it well enough and never that our tactics aren’t right for the situation.

We got ourselves in a great position last night, 1-0 up away from home in a massive game with half an hour left. But we were coming under increasing pressure from a team pressing very, very high and loading our box to target the fact we only had Cameron who could win the ball in the air.

The solutions were IMO pretty obvious. Rawlinson on for Richardson to give us much more aerial defence, with Brindley shifting to right back to give us a solid back four. We don’t need overlapping runs in that situation. Then Nemane on for one of the three behind Wootton with instructions to keep running into the huge amount of space they were leaving.

Instead we brought on Brunt for Vincent, making the XI even smaller and less physical, kept giving the ball away thirty yards from our own goal trying to play it out, and inevitably crumbled. It was bizarre to watch.

I like our style of football, and it works in a lot of situations. My problem is that we’ve become completely dogmatic about it.

Well said

[smntrees]

I travelled over from Wigan yesterday to watch. For me we weren’t in the game for the majority of it. Chesterfield played a good high press which stifles the way we play and can’t deal with it. We didn’t go for the second ball or pressure their players. There were good spells when we switched tactics but reverted back. It’s frustrating that plan b doesn’t get implemented early or strongly enough. The second half was almost ardley like to respect the point be sitting deeper.

[laddo]

If you had bothered to read my earlier post, you would have seen that there were many posters who had also criticised Sam. At that time some of his cameo appearances were embarrassing to say the least. However, i have since been full of praise for him or have you not bothered to read that as well.
I really dont know how you can pass comment or criticise others when you very rarely attend matches.

I know there are threads to prove it lol, you just happend to be front and centre whenever he got brought up and mocked. It's ok it's common for people to be rather premature and OTT on here#viva.

And yes I have now see you've switched and I for one and delighted to see it. It just shows you it's best not to judge a player too soon. Maybe the radar was working after all.

Now he's been given plenty of time to perform he is rightly getting much praise from supporters including ones that wanted him out of the club within a month or so of signing. Laughable but a true story.

He has certainly proved me wrong but I always hoped

You have a tendency to judge players after a matter of a few games , and very limited minutes on the pitch so you aren't really in a position to question others chap lol.

[Elite_Pie]

You have a tendency to judge players after a matter of a few games , and very limited minutes on the pitch so you aren't really in a position to question others chap lol.

That reminds me of a bloke on here who insisted Ruben was a superstar at this level on the basis of actually seeing him for just 90 minutes!

Only on NCM!

[laddo]

That reminds me of a bloke on here who insisted Ruben was a superstar at this level on the basis of actually seeing him for just 90 minutes!

Only on NCM!

Where do you get 90 mins from? Oh silly me that's right you are unable to judge a player or team performance when its on TV or an online stream. I've only actually seen Lionel Messi for 90 minutes (in the flesh), looked decent that day at the Camp Nou but too soon to say he's a superstar after only one game obviously

I'm not alone in believing Ruben is too good for this level, even opposition managers have stated similar during post match interviews.

[keldsyke]

You have a tendency to judge players after a matter of a few games , and very limited minutes on the pitch so you aren't really in a position to question others chap lol.

Wow, how condescending, I'd say he has more right than 90% on here.

[upthemaggies]

When was the last time Notts County lost a game 3-1 after being 1-0 up?

Answer: Swindon away on the day Notts County were relegated out of the Football League.

Oh, when was the last time we lost any game 3-1?

Answer: Harrogate in the play off final.

Any other 3-1 defeats as significantly awful as those two?

Answer: Gillingham away on the last day of 2014/15, relegated to tier 4.

OK, no need to bother with the 1988 Play offs.

[durhampie]

I know there are threads to prove it lol, you just happend to be front and centre whenever he got brought up and mocked. It's ok it's common for people to be rather premature and OTT on here#viva.

And yes I have now see you've switched and I for one and delighted to see it. It just shows you it's best not to judge a player too soon. Maybe the radar was working after all.

Now he's been given plenty of time to perform he is rightly getting much praise from supporters including ones that wanted him out of the club within a month or so of signing. Laughable but a true story.

He has certainly proved me wrong but I always hoped

You have a tendency to judge players after a matter of a few games , and very limited minutes on the pitch so you aren't really in a position to question others chap lol.

I'm only questioning you on the basis that i have seen every game that Sam has been involved in, whereas you haven't. So i think I'm in a better position to give an opinion rather than a regular armchair radio listener/ troll..