O/T Trussed in Leader gone

[animallittle3]

Have a debate.
That's a good manifesto.
What else does starmer have in his locker?

They aren't the Tories , that's it I think .

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

Seems to be a lot of job vacancies available. And no one wants to get out of bed.
Cut benefits.
Triple lock for pensioners will go. So cut the rest.

No it won't

Too many pensioners vote Conservative

[crashbang]

They cut it last year fro 8% to 3%

[howdydoo]

Cool fishing dude. At least I hope so as surely no one can be this thick? Sun reader much?

Your idea of more tax for people in the £40k + to £70k earnings bracket is the answer?

They pay enough.


……. and no that doesn’t mean me.

[howdydoo]

There is much in your post I agree with pup and some things I don't .

I've read some really nasty stuff especially online from remainers , the comments section on Brexit articles in The Guardian is proper nasty , thick , racist and meat head red wall voters are the more kinder ones , they deserve to starve to death up there not so kind .

Even remainers who have tried to explain why people voted the way they did are given a rough ride .

I'm not saying that covers every remainer by any means but it's defiantly a good few percent .

The Brexit vote was a cry for help from the low paid and politically overlooked in my opinion and one of the reasons many people voted the way they did in 2019 was to ensure the only time their vote meant something substantial then it had better well be carried through .

I take your point that looking for the benefits of Brexit have so far escaped the Conservative Party if they ever exist at all which doesn't look too promising .

However I think it goes much deeper than that in my opinion , I don't think the Conservative Party have agreed as one single entity what to do now we have left the EU , it seems to mean different things to different Tories and they are winging it at best .

The Labour Party dare not speak one single word about Brexit .

Clearly if they win the next election which looks likely although you can't ever be 100% you'd imagine they'd feel as a government in power they can start to at least have the debate and gauge the public mood .

Carry on boys. I’ve already stated that Brexit or no Brexit made no difference to me.

As for parliament, the fact remains that many Conservative MP’s went against the will of their constituents.

I’m sorry but we’ve never given it a go.

Right or wrong decision.

[millersrus]

Who, in the name of the Lord's wheelbarrow, is holding brexit back? The party that won the vote have had free reign to make it whatever they wanted it to be, albeit clearly have come up against some little barriers called 'global reality' and have found that many of their main selling points don't work in the plane we all seem to inhabit.

No opponents of brexit have done anything except sit on the outside, have a bit of an unconsequential moan and now that clear evidence is showing that brexit has made our economy worse than it would have been without brexit, some are pointing this out out on a politically meaningless football message board. Your party (assuming you voted for it) have had free reign to make brexit everything you wanted it to be. To blame powerless remoaners who have had no say is screechingly laughable. You voted for it. You can see it's a mess. Own it.

What Clear evidence? It may be worse but is nigh on impossible to quantify the exact contribution to the current state of affairs.
Free reign to make it what …. You forgetting that little thing called covid and the current Ukraine situation that have dominated everything.

[crashbang]

https://www.businesselectricityprices.org.uk/europe/

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

Your idea of more tax for people in the £40k + to £70k earnings bracket is the answer?

They pay enough.


……. and no that doesn’t mean me.

But includes all of the footballers we idolise

[avondalemiller]

Some people don't know where their next takeaway is coming from.

I would think it's Macdonalds looking at how many are in there.............cost of living crisis.....lol......budgeting skills need more like.

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

I would think it's Macdonalds looking at how many are in there.............cost of living crisis.....lol......budgeting skills need more like.

And all of the spending on Halloween crap