O/T. The Government's handling of Covid

[Geoff Parkstone]

As you know, GP, I do respect your knowledge of economics. Unfortunately so long as you just look at people as commodities...as ‘units that can earn and contribute’...your moral compass isn’t just ‘flawed’...it’s completely broken.

So what basis would you make that judgement on in a "who to save" scenario such as MA's Dutch doctors almost found themselves in? Its easy to be dismissive of an "economic solution" when you have no alternative selection process. Please dont cop out by saying "save them all" because that isnt an option in this game of morlity

[ramAnag]

So what basis would you make that judgement on in a "who to save" scenario such as MA's Dutch doctors almost found themselves in? Its easy to be dismissive of an "economic solution" when you have no alternative selection process. Please dont cop out by saying "save them all" because that isnt an option in this game of morlity

Interesting way of misspelling morality. Might have been more appropriate if you’d left out the ‘I’. Freudian slip maybe.

I don’t know GP. That’s my point...I agree with MA...it’s complex and Tricky is, possibly with the best of intentions on this occasion, over simplifying things.

[MadAmster]

It's only about 3 months ago that the Dutch HS came out and said that, if cases Covid related hospital/ICU admissions didn't start a downward trend inside 3 or 4 days maximum we would be in "code black". That would have meant that, if a hospital had 1 bed left and 2 people arrived simultaneously, the doctors would have to "play God" and decide which patient they would try to save and which one would be left to their own devices if a bed couldn't be found elsewhere.

Not a role Dutch docs want to play.

[MadAmster]

TTR, that massive rise in deaths from other causes is a given me owd. The reasons?

1. Diagnosed cancers that haven't been treated for 2 years
2. Cancers that haven't been diagnosed because people haven't been checked so their cancers aren't being treated
3. Heart problems not treated for 2 years
4. Heart issues that haven't been diagnosed because people haven't been checked so their hearts aren't being treated

wash, rinse and repeat with lung, kidney, brain, prostate etc..... there already is a huge backlog of people who will die in the near future because they haven't been able to access diagnosis and/or treatment for the past 2 years.

[Geoff Parkstone]

it was a mis spelling of mortality

[ramAnag]

it was a mis spelling of mortality

Lol...even more Freudian.

[MadAmster]

Looking very much like a rule relaxation coming my way from next Wednesday.

Bars and restaurants may open until 1AM instead 10PM as it is now. Corona pass still needed. No masks. No distancing provided the location houses less than 500.

Clubs, theatres, cinemas and discotheques may open under the same conditions as pubs, again up to 500. Over 500 and it's masks and distancing.

[Geoff Parkstone]

Love to see someone try to enforce social distancing in a disco with over 500 people in it! Some jobsworth with a tape measure on the dance floor maybe?

[MadAmster]

Love to see someone try to enforce social distancing in a disco with over 500 people in it! Some jobsworth with a tape measure on the dance floor maybe?

... and now you're expecting joined up thinking from politicians GP?

[ramAnag]

Love to see someone try to enforce social distancing in a disco with over 500 people in it! Some jobsworth with a tape measure on the dance floor maybe?

Clearly a job for Michael Gove...think he was practising back last summer...most would certainly have kept their distance.