O/T Coronavirus Thread

[CAMiller]

No NHS here in Seattle roly and health services are already overwhelmed even with a large proportion of people having stayed at home for the past 2 weeks. If I get sick the general understanding is nobody is possibly coming to help.

[Ericsladkilnhurst]

We were due to go to Spain on Tuesday 17 March, waiting for Tui holidays telling us it is a no go, they say that the will contact people on Monday 16 March to pass on information. This instead of notifying us by e-mail now saying holiday cancelled, after Spanish government put a lock down in place, & our own government saying don't travel.
The reason Tui are hanging back is to contact each customer by telephone & hope to convince them to book another holiday later, then they don't have to give the money back.
One good thing is I have used holiday extras for airport parking, if you cancel there is a over £10 cancellation fee, but this is being waived, so full refund, easy to do on line. They know full well if they charged a cancellation fee, customers would go elsewhere next time.
I am taking my money back from Tui, then hoping our 3 week holiday in May in Turkey will get the green light.
We may have lost our holiday to Spain next week for 11 days, but good news last night I won £700 on the Irish lotto.

[caytonmiller]

And that would be enough to cover the short fall in the NHS schools ect?.
I'm not one of them but why do you think people who are successful should pay more tax?
Regards the royals. If you deducted the economy they bring to the country from what they cost to keep. How much would the balance be? I saw figures a few year ago estimated at 100m the royals bring to the UK.
Tax Dodgers. Isn't this a tax relief to attract business to the UK? these company generated much more than they dodge in taxes

[rolymiller]

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Tax Dodgers. Isn't this a tax relief to attract business to the UK? these company generated much more than they dodge in taxes

I wish I could be that trusting Cayton...

You must have read my views on "successful" people on here before Cayton so I don't really want to bore you with my views on this again. Basically all I will say is that money should not be the only thing that motivates people. There is a limit to how much anybody should have because it really isn't needed to survive comfortably. I know the likes of Howdy will grumble at me for saying that which I am used to.

There is still no reason why we cant have a decent health system irrespective of all that. I'm not saying that it would solve all our problems with regard to the coronavirus but more nurses, doctors, facilities, research etc would save more lives.

[mikemiller]

Corona virus news ... 232 new cases, 14 more UK deaths today - still accelerating.

Worse in all aspects than Japan now, and although Germany has far more cases, it also has far less deaths.
Are they following a different strategy? Did seem to be quicker to introduce a "lockdown", which could have had a positive effect.

[KerrAvon]

Corona virus news ... 232 new cases, 14 more UK deaths today - still accelerating.

Worse in all aspects than Japan now, and although Germany has far more cases, it also has far less deaths.
Are they following a different strategy? Did seem to be quicker to introduce a "lockdown", which could have had a positive effect.

Germany is not following a significant lockdown policy yet. Their strategy is similar to ours.

But what do you think a lockdown will achieve? China and South Korea have achieved a degree of control with lockdowns that represent a major interference with individual freedoms (of the type that Roly says he would not comply with). That’s all well and good, but the virus is still there and so lockdown is like pressing on the brake pedal of a car that is freewheeling down a hill. It’s possible to slow it down or even bring it to a halt, but as soon as you lift the lockdown, the brakes come off and down we go.

Edit: A bit of info about Germany. Merkel seems to be getting the same stick that BoJo is:

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news...erkel-12527596

[mikemiller]

[QUOTE=KerrAvon;39457651] That’s all well and good, but the virus is still there and so lockdown is like pressing on the brake pedal of a car that is freewheeling down a hill. It’s possible to slow it down or even bring it to a halt, but as soon as you lift the lockdown, the brakes come off and down we go.

/QUOTE]

Be interesting to see what happens in Japan, who have coped with the situation better than us so far, when they start lifting the restrictions. They must have already planned the timescale for that.

[caytonmiller]

I wish I could be that trusting Cayton...

You must have read my views on "successful" people on here before Cayton so I don't really want to bore you with my views on this again. Basically all I will say is that money should not be the only thing that motivates people. There is a limit to how much anybody should have because it really isn't needed to survive comfortably. I know the likes of Howdy will grumble at me for saying that which I am used to.

There is still no reason why we cant have a decent health system irrespective of all that. I'm not saying that it would solve all our problems with regard to the coronavirus but more nurses, doctors, facilities, research etc would save more lives.

Have to disagree m8. I just don't think there's enough in the pot to fund our standard of living and the amount of population in the country. If they plough extra into NHS the education suffers or policing ect.
Agree with the "a person only needs so much to live on" but should we be punishing those people who have prob sacrificed a lot over the early years of there wealth to fund the unemployed/low income/imigrants ect. They probably do enough by employing low income workers.

Btw. Didn't read you views about "successful people". It was probably on a political thread ��

[CAMiller]

I wish I could be that trusting Cayton...

You must have read my views on "successful" people on here before Cayton so I don't really want to bore you with my views on this again. Basically all I will say is that money should not be the only thing that motivates people. There is a limit to how much anybody should have because it really isn't needed to survive comfortably. I know the likes of Howdy will grumble at me for saying that which I am used to.

There is still no reason why we cant have a decent health system irrespective of all that. I'm not saying that it would solve all our problems with regard to the coronavirus but more nurses, doctors, facilities, research etc would save more lives.

I saw recently that Italy has more health professionals per capita than the US so there is naturally a worry here seeing what has transpired there. On a side note, prior to this last week when the health 'care' system here started to get on board with government guidelines of providing 'free' tests, if you wanted a COVID-19 test off your own back your health 'care' provider would do it at a cost of $1,000.

[Pattylallacks2]

Going ti ts up very rapidly now.