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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLadonOS View Post
    Macron has said that he would not back an extension on every other occasion but changed his mind when it came to it and he will do the same again.
    He’s trying to put pressure on the UK to sort it all out. No point in an extension, Boris won’t be asking for one, he’s got to come up with a deal when he next meets the EU in October.

    The problem I have is none of the two main parties are worth voting for and I refuse to vote for Farage.
    It’s going to be a messy GE when it does happen.

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    This started three years ago. I'm saying if parliament had got behind brexit we would have got a deal. Mark carney head of the bank of England down graded the effect of a no deal. He saying he got it wrong,project fear maybe..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stovicmiller View Post
    This started three years ago. I'm saying if parliament had got behind brexit we would have got a deal. Mark carney head of the bank of England down graded the effect of a no deal. He saying he got it wrong,project fear maybe..
    Actually this all started when the EU refused to give Camaron a single solitary thing when he went to negotiate. If the EU had not played the "we are not giving you squat card" none of this would have happend but the pig headed EU leaders thought they were Jimmy big bollox as they always do. ****ers.

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    Teresa calling a GE mid term and losing seats and therefore the power to govern freely was a major error.
    That and putting someone in charge of decision making who's heart wasn't in it. Thornberry is now the latter day Teresa May.

    I think the EU are just playing us like a fiddle by saying they are not keen on an extension. Further delay means vast sums of money coming from the UK to the EU and there are factions within the UK doing their dirty work for them.....UK to change its mind and remain.

    On the other hand the EU might have had enough of our time wasting because they reminded us last April to use your time wisely up to Oct. Lol. Do nothing for 80% of the time available and then just argue even more than before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flourbasher View Post
    Teresa calling a GE mid term and losing seats and therefore the power to govern freely was a major error.
    That and putting someone in charge of decision making who's heart wasn't in it. Thornberry is now the latter day Teresa May.

    I think the EU are just playing us like a fiddle by saying they are not keen on an extension. Further delay means vast sums of money coming from the UK to the EU and there are factions within the UK doing their dirty work for them.....UK to change its mind and remain.

    On the other hand the EU might have had enough of our time wasting because they reminded us last April to use your time wisely up to Oct. Lol. Do nothing for 80% of the time available and then just argue even more than before.
    Why wouldn't the EU not want this saga to go on & on
    Every month we will be paying in approx £1 billion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exiletyke View Post
    Why wouldn't the EU not want this saga to go on & on
    Every month we will be paying in approx £1 billion
    The govt should Send an invoice to all those people who have derailed the democratic process. If they don't pay then increase their income tax until the wasted sums are paid.back. Once retired it comes out of their pensions.

    Corbyn has to pay double because he's so incompetent

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    Interesting reading this morning that Farage wants to do a deal with the tories on the forthcoming GE .

    He's proposing that they will stand as candidates in the brexit northern heartlands with the tories stepping down .

    In return the Brexit Party will not contest the safe tory seats in the south .

    This will ensure on paper at least that the leave vote is not split across the country .

    So basically up here it will be a showdown between Corbyn and Farage at the GE .

    Labour will have top weight on winning around these parts with a ballot paper looking like that in my opinion .

    Total annihilation for Corbyn in historically the safest seats in the UK .

    Well done Jez but it's not as if you weren't warned .

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    I'd like to know who from within the Labour Party is speaking up for us in the brexit northern heartlands ? .

    There are leavers in the Labour Party but where are they ?, for the first time in his political life even Skinner can't find his voice .

    Please tell me they don't think when push comes to shove we will back them like we've always done .

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    Quote Originally Posted by animallittle3 View Post
    I'd like to know who from within the Labour Party is speaking up for us in the brexit northern heartlands ? .

    There are leavers in the Labour Party but where are they ?, for the first time in his political life even Skinner can't find his voice .

    Please tell me they don't think when push comes to shove we will back them like we've always done .
    Of course they think the North will back them because they think that all us northerners are as thick as **** and to be honest he may well be right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stovicmiller View Post
    This started three years ago. I'm saying if parliament had got behind brexit we would have got a deal. Mark carney head of the bank of England down graded the effect of a no deal. He saying he got it wrong,project fear maybe..
    I don't think any deal would come close to what you and the eurosceptics in the tory and brexit party would accept. In short, they want reciprocal trade tariffs and after that no interference, which of course would allow us to completely undercut the EU on the world trade market. Yet when the EU bargain, as America will do, and any country does on trade deals, there is an inevitable compromise on many aspects. Farage et Al want it all. The EU are never going to give that. The WA is, despite my dislike of it, is as good as we could have expected from the WA and then were only at the start of the real negotiations.

    So let's not talk of deals on here if you have no serious intention of wanting one. It's quite obvious what you want!

    Carney adjusted his worst case prediction to take into account work that had been done in preparation. Only a 5% reduction in our national growth with no deal! Well done on those preps peeps!

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