⚽ Match Thread vs. Peterborough Utd. 30.11.24 [FAC R2]

[Boomerangpie]

I find it absolutely bewildering that people believe the owners of this club are not ambitious. Only talk ambition and not show it. Despite the shopping list of evidence to the contrary. You can?t ignore the huge amounts spent by the club on its infrastructure as not showing ambition just because it wasn?t spent on footballers. Thankfully I think it is only a few who this this way.

The new hybrid pitch with drainage guaranteeing less games cancelled
Buying land and creating new fanzone at the Nest guaranteeing more income when Notts are home or away
The new padel courts generating income all year round
The new outside bars behind the Kop stand improving amenities for thousands in the stand and increasing income.

The above does not come cheap, millions and millions in fact.

Of course would have been amazing to get a big and rare payday at Goodison Park but the above doesn?t rely on a lucky ball being picked out it?s every year.

In terms of what money is spent on players? Have we not spent undisclosed sums on players every season under these owners? Thats not the norm for this club. Don?t forget it was the ambitious signings of Scott and Langstaff when plucked for a lower division that resulted in the big compensation received by the club. Similar for the past two head coaches the club have identified gone out and got that got us compensation. That?s not the norm for this club.

Seriously when was the last time the clubs owners showed more ambition? I suspect it?s the classic frustrated fans wanting progress yesterday on display

[upthemaggies]

My first ever Notts game was against Coventry that season, a warm Saturday afternoon in April. The attendance was 6,655. Unbelievably there were some attendances even lower than that.

There were two top flight clubs who averaged less than us in 1991/92 but our gates were nevertheless very disappointing to say the least, though that had a fair bit to do with us timing our ascent to coincide with Fword having their second wind under Clough (Back to back League Cup wins when that competition mattered and also an FA Cup final, when that was still the biggest deal of all). As with 1981, nobody in Nottingham other than Notts regulars cared we were back in the top flight. Delaying promotion a year would have meant us going up the season they came down, which would have made a very significant difference as well as us being among the 22 forming the Premier League.

[Mud Pie]

No Swale, they are not JUST your views; I totally agree with what you say. I don't usually get involved with the arguments of the grumpy old men on this board, but I felt I had to reply to some of the comments. However, you've saved me the trouble and covered all the points I was going to mention. Well said!

ya, this! Well said, Swale.

it's like some posters have no memory of the Trust, Trews, or Hardy eras. Would you swap the Bros for any of those? If yer just going to moan no matter how good our owners are, at least put it in context.

[Mud Pie]

Agree with all of that which doesn?t make either of us a nodding dog. Equally, having the opinion that Stuart Maynard unfortunately isn?t quite up to the job doesn?t make anyone a bedwetter either.

that kind of aplogist/bedwetter polemic thinking is very divisive and does no one much good.

As for SM, I think it's dynamic rather than static. He's made a huge step up so there will be mistakes (Sirrell and Fergie both had difficult early careers). It's one thing saying SM's performance hasn't been all that great, and another saying he'll never be any good.

After the substitution window that shook the world, I think tonight is a bit of a crossroads. Win, or a well played draw, and Sat will be largely forgotten. Lose, and SM will have lost an important segment of supporters.

Whatever grace he got from fans like me for the choppy waters last season has probably evaporated now. We're need a head coach who can keep moving Notts forward DESPITE injuries and other slings and arrows.

[LeftPeg_Pie]

Prioritising one game over another is slightly arbitrary, but I do get it a bit more when it comes to cup games.

There will be plenty of data about red zones and potential injuries vs minutes played that we clearly are not privy to. SM could be seen to be a bit damned if you do and damned if you don?t. Imagine we win on Saturday, I do not think SM gets the level of praise he gets in relation to the level of stick he has got for us losing.

I totally, 100% understand the negativity from the weekend, but I also get that SM has a job to do in regards to looking ahead, planning and managing minutes. A rock and a hard place comes to mind.

We have also done the injuries/squad depth thing to death on here.

Ultimately, SM will live and die (in a totally footballing sense) by the decisions he makes and those decisions he will be making will be taking as much data and context into mind as possible.

There has been a lot of interesting comments following Saturday; a nice mixture of both sides of the argument and some classic Mad nonsense thrown into the mix.

Looking forward to the reaction after the game tonight, but I fear SM?s post game words could come back to bite him on the arse.

Personally, as it stands at 5:02; I would definitely take a point before a ball is kicked.

[matt_magpie]

Prioritising one game over another is slightly arbitrary, but I do get it a bit more when it comes to cup games.

There will be plenty of data about red zones and potential injuries vs minutes played that we clearly are not privy to. SM could be seen to be a bit damned if you do and damned if you don?t. Imagine we win on Saturday, I do not think SM gets the level of praise he gets in relation to the level of stick he has gotten for us losing.

I totally, 100% understand the negativity from the weekend, but I also get that SM has a job to do in regards to looking ahead, planning and managing minutes. A rock and a hard place comes to mind.

We have also done the injuries/squad depth thing to death on here.

Ultimately, SM will live and die (in a totally footballing sense) by the decisions he makes and those decisions he will be making will be taking as much data and context into mind as possible.

There has been a lot of interesting comments following Saturday; a nice mixture of both sides of the argument and some classic Mad nonsense thrown into the mix.

Looking forward to the reaction after the game tonight, but I fear SM?s post game words could come back to bite him on the arse.

Personally, as it stands at 5:02; I would definitely take a point before a ball is kicked.

When we played Chesterfield I think Cook brought on 4, might have been a few mins between but virtually at the same time and they scored not long after and some were ridiculing SM for not being bold and proactive, SM waited and tbf we got a well earned point.
I don?t know if he?s going to be the man to get us up but not sure it warrants people hammering him, especially when we don?t know the condition of the players.

[maddogslater]

Thank you for your post swale, it's like explaining to children, posters comments of durhampie and his like on here are sickening.