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Thread: Consistently Wrong Refereeing decisions...

  1. #21
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    re: Consistently Wrong Refereeing decisions...

    Quote Originally Posted by tricky1972
    Most of you seem to be missing the point, Dave is 100% correct.

    Once the decision has been made to send a player off, then play HAS TO stop.

    So unless you disagree with the decision on the sending off then the title of this thread is wrong not the ref.

    So many football fans are critical when utterly clueless, thanks for proving a point here Ella, stick to stats coz you know eff all about football.


    Oh. OK Tricky. I bow to your superior knowledge and eloquence in debate.

    Why don't you address the point behind my post though. Want me to explain it again? [/quote]

    Yes, please explain it, are you...

    a. saying it's a 'wrong refereeing decision'?

    or

    b. asking if a sending off and a penno is a lesser advantage than a goal and yellow card? Then it depends, I suppose, you could always play the last 20 minutes of the game and br

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    Right chaps I only saw the highlights on fls so you have to forgive me. But none of you have mentioned anything about Buxtons 2 goals. For me he most certainly man handled his opponent for both of them. We all know how he likes to wrestle and pull shirts at set pieces. Would any of you have been happy if those 2 goals were against you?

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    re: Consistently Wrong Refereeing decisions...

    We don't have to forgive you

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    re: Consistently Wrong Refereeing decisions...

    Quote Originally Posted by psycho!!!!!
    Right chaps I only saw the highlights on fls so you have to forgive me. But none of you have mentioned anything about Buxtons 2 goals. For me he most certainly man handled his opponent for both of them. We all know how he likes to wrestle and pull shirts at set pieces. Would any of you have been happy if those 2 goals were against you?
    You're wrong that he manhandles the defender any more than any player comes into contact during free kicks and corners into the box.

    The defending marker raised his arms abjectly after the second goal but none of his own team paid him any attention - the fact is that Wednesday didn't feel aggrieved by either of Buxtons goals either during the game or afterwards. They complained about everything else, including the sending off and penalty ffs, so I'd be a tad surprised if they'd let two goals from fouls go without remonstrating.

    So no I wouldn't be happy but that's because I'd be ****ed off that

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    re: Consistently Wrong Refereeing decisions...

    Quote Originally Posted by triz
    We don't have to forgive you
    ...but we will forget you.

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    re: Consistently Wrong Refereeing decisions...

    Quote Originally Posted by ellafella
    Most of you seem to be missing the point, Dave is 100% correct.

    Once the decision has been made to send a player off, then play HAS TO stop.

    So unless you disagree with the decision on the sending off then the title of this thread is wrong not the ref.

    So many football fans are critical when utterly clueless, thanks for proving a point here Ella, stick to stats coz you know eff all about football.


    Oh. OK Tricky. I bow to your superior knowledge and eloquence in debate.

    Why don't you address the point behind my post though. Want me to explain it again? [/quote]

    Yes, please explain it, are you...

    a. saying it's a 'wrong refereeing decision'?

    or

    b. asking if a sending off and a penno is a lesser advantage than a goal and yellow card? Then it depends, I suppose, you could alw

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    re: Consistently Wrong Refereeing decisions...

    Quote Originally Posted by tricky1972
    Most of you seem to be missing the point, Dave is 100% correct.

    Once the decision has been made to send a player off, then play HAS TO stop.

    So unless you disagree with the decision on the sending off then the title of this thread is wrong not the ref.

    So many football fans are critical when utterly clueless, thanks for proving a point here Ella, stick to stats coz you know eff all about football.


    Oh. OK Tricky. I bow to your superior knowledge and eloquence in debate.

    Why don't you address the point behind my post though. Want me to explain it again? [/quote]

    Yes, please explain it, are you...

    a. saying it's a 'wrong refereeing decision'?

    or

    b. asking if a sending off and a penno is a lesser advantage than a goal and yellow

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    re: Consistently Wrong Refereeing decisions...

    Quote Originally Posted by dcfcdavecov
    A red card offence cannot have an advantage played after it. As soon as it's committed, the game stops.

    Refs are right in both circumstances, according to the rules.
    I'm not sure that is totally correct Dave.

    How many times do you see a goalie or defender putting in a last ditch punch or tackle only for the forward just to get there ahead and send the ball goalwards and into the net. The defender clatters the striker.
    Unless injured, the striker gets up, and sets off celebrating! The ref invariably just points to the halfway line and takes no further action.
    However, that last ditch attempt to play the ball is technically a foul made before the ball crosses the goal line so should the ref in these cases disallow the goal and get his cards out?

    The foul in such cases has obviously not prevented a goal scoring chance but the foul happens before the goal.
    Does the goal forgive the foul or has the foul not taken place because a g

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob_the_Ram
    A red card offence cannot have an advantage played after it. As soon as it's committed, the game stops.

    Refs are right in both circumstances, according to the rules.
    I'm not sure that is totally correct Dave.

    How many times do you see a goalie or defender putting in a last ditch punch or tackle only for the forward just to get there ahead and send the ball goalwards and into the net. The defender clatters the striker.
    Unless injured, the striker gets up, and sets off celebrating! The ref invariably just points to the halfway line and takes no further action.
    However, that last ditch attempt to play the ball is technically a foul made before the ball crosses the goal line so should the ref in these cases disallow the goal and get his cards out?

    The foul in such cases has obviously not prevented a goal scoring chance but the foul happens before the goal.
    Does the goal forgive the

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    re: Consistently Wrong Refereeing decisions...

    Quote Originally Posted by ramspride
    A red card offence cannot have an advantage played after it. As soon as it's committed, the game stops.

    Refs are right in both circumstances, according to the rules.
    Wrong Dave

    Advantage


    According to the principle of advantage, play should be allowed to continue when the team against which an offence has been committed will benefit from ongoing play. The referee indicates this by calling "play on!" and extending both arms in front of his body.[7]

    FIFA's guidance on the interpretation of the Laws for referees outlines the considerations a referee must make when deciding whether to play advantage; these include the severity of the offence and the potential for attacking opportunity. Referees are instructed to make such decisions "within a few seconds" of the offence.[1]:72

    In rare situations, advantage can also be applied if the foul was also a misconduct. Play is allowed to con

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