O/T DDay for Brexit..well sort of...

[KerrAvon]

ragingpup is right. The deal is a compromise and a compromise was always going to be necessary, because the version of Brexit in which we voted to leave one day and then simply walked away the next without consequences was always a fantasy.

The EU have made substantial compromises even though they held most of the cards in the negotiations.

It seems unlikely that the deal will be approved by Parliament - the 'meaningful vote' isn't actually binding on the government, but Parliament would need to pass the legislation required to support the deal. Much will turn upon how many MPs of all parties will shrink away from the dangers of a no deal Brexit and vote with the government.

Even if the DUP don't support the government on the deal, there is no reason to suppose that they would walk away from the confidence and supply deal and risk a general election. It is inconceivable that they would risk allowing Corbyn and his Republican sympathising chums into power.

I think it unlikely that May will survive a defeat of the deal in Parliament. I think it possible that she will resign even if she gets it through - it has been a thankless task to navigate Brexit.

Boris Johnson will not be the next leader of the Conservatives - he is seen as being divisive and disloyal. Disloyalty is never forgiven in that party.

I gave you Teresa May when she was 20/1 for the job. I give you Dominic Raab at 10/1.

I doubt whether Starmer will be the next Labour leader, despite animal's best efforts. He's a Blairite. He would be very good, however.

[Exiletyke]

ragingpup is right. The deal is a compromise and a compromise was always going to be necessary, because the version of Brexit in which we voted to leave one day and then simply walked away the next without consequences was always a fantasy.

The EU have made substantial compromises even though they held most of the cards in the negotiations.

It seems unlikely that the deal will be approved by Parliament - the 'meaningful vote' isn't actually binding on the government, but Parliament would need to pass the legislation required to support the deal. Much will turn upon how many MPs of all parties will shrink away from the dangers of a no deal Brexit and vote with the government.

Even if the DUP don't support the government on the deal, there is no reason to suppose that they would walk away from the confidence and supply deal and risk a general election. It is inconceivable that they would risk allowing Corbyn and his Republican sympathising chums into power.

I think it unlikely that May will survive a defeat of the deal in Parliament. I think it possible that she will resign even if she gets it through - it has been a thankless task to navigate Brexit.

Boris Johnson will not be the next leader of the Conservatives - he is seen as being divisive and disloyal. Disloyalty is never forgiven in that party.

I gave you Teresa May when she was 20/1 for the job. I give you Dominic Raab at 10/1.

I doubt whether Starmer will be the next Labour leader, despite animal's best efforts. He's a Blairite. He would be very good, however.

Yes I think Raab would be the right choice
When the going gets tough Raab gets going
Just the sort with a backbone we need

I think Cameron would be a good 2nd choice
Give the spineless one a chance to put right what he started

If only Guy Fawkes had been a bit more lucky

[mellowmiller]

From the outset, regardless how all us oiks voted, the negotiations have only been carried out with the tory party interests in mind, and frankly it stinks to high heaven.....

Whereas this may be true I'd be a lot more comfortable if I knew what the Labour Party's policy was on Brexit. Corbyn says one thing, Starmer says another and the party appears to be in as much disarray as the Tories.
Not good at all ☹

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

Whereas this may be true I'd be a lot more comfortable if I knew what the Labour Party's policy was on Brexit. Corbyn says one thing, Starmer says another and the party appears to be in as much disarray as the Tories.
Not good at all ☹

Or which bin to put it in. The recycled paper bin or the pink lid general waste bin.

[MillerBill]

Project fear CBI at it again with the extremist bleak "predictions" and would you believe Vauxhall motors threatening us.A French owned company probably been briefed by Macron our friendly neighbour.As predictable as they come.

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

Project fear CBI at it again with the extremist bleak "predictions" and would you believe Vauxhall motors threatening us.A French owned company probably been briefed by Macron our friendly neighbour.As predictable as they come.

But it works, the sheep fall for it and go where the sheepdogs send them, happily bleating.

Propaganda works that way, lies repeated enough become "facts"

[MillerBill]

That sinister woman, champagne socialist Emily Thornberry has spoken saying labour should stand as a remain party which will go down well in the London bubble but nowhere else.The horrible woman is trying to lead the party and Corbyn needs to put her in her place.

[MillerBill]

After after all the ballyhoo about NO DEAL taken off the table through the surrender act.Parliamentarians demanded we have a deal.I f they now turn this down,it will show us they were going for NO BREXIT not NO DEAL.The undemocratic poison inside parliament is toxic. More than 400 MPs have leave majorities,this should have been passed through on March 29th.How can these MPs sleep at night?

[MillerBill]

A very big thank you to MPs in this area who have supported democracy and listened to the voters by not obstructing the EU exit.I wish other MPs round here were as honest and put the country's interest first.

[great_fire]

Corbyn wants out as he can't carry out his nationalisation plans if we're in the EU but can't say that as it would alienate their young Remainer support base.