O/T:- USA Covid19 Deaths

[LaxtonLad]

There has also been a lot of speculation about Trump's cognitive deterioration. His behaviour is erratic, he often loses his thread part way through a sentence, gets words or parts of words wrong and his vocabulary has become smaller and repetitive.

He'll have blood on his hands at the end of all this. Being right, winning every argument, and especially his desire to get re-elected are all more important than taking potentially unpopular action to reduce the spread of Covid 19.

The man is more interested in protecting his image than his people. At press conferences he surrounds himself with nodding sycophants who either smile or look serious according to the script and reporters - beware! Ask him a question he hasn't got an immediate answer to and he will attack the reporter with his "terrible reporter" and "that's a nasty question" as we saw last week to one who only asked if he had anything to tell the public. We are all now familiar with his denying having said something that can be easily checked on YouTube or press back issues and calling anything going against his statements "fake news".

Sound bites, sound bites, all the way. But familiar sound bites can be reassuring and the American public are so used to being told how great the USA is, how almost god-like their presidents are, that it's difficult for them to see through surface bullsh1t and think for themselves.

Republicans and Democrats can see only their own particular leader as the only answer to the nation's problems and neither will give credit to the other. The back-biting goes on for years and Trump encourages every attack on Obama that comes along.

A president who informs his public by Twitter is surely one with a personality problem. Notts recently had an owner with that obsession and we know how well that went.

[navypie]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkffnHnaPAU

[ancientpie]

I will leave the Trump loving/hating to the Americans,you know the people who actually live there & witness what is happening with their own eyes, i do of course realise that they lack the insight & knowledge of some on here (one of whom actually knows an American apparently) but obviously this is just another thread designed to give the same old posters something to argue about.

[navypie]

I will leave the Trump loving/hating to the Americans,you know the people who actually live there & witness what is happening with their own eyes, i do of course realise that they lack the insight & knowledge of some on here (one of whom actually knows an American apparently) but obviously this is just another thread designed to give the same old posters something to argue about.

Crickey, that's told us. Anyway, I'm surprised Trump hasn't gotten into bed with the Belarusian president who thinks Saunas and Vodka can ward off the virus. How stupid is that eh, everyone knows taking a sauna won't help.

[jackal2]

I'm surprised Trump hasn't gotten into bed with the Belarusian president who thinks Saunas and Vodka can ward off the virus. How stupid is that eh, everyone knows taking a sauna won't help.

In the final analysis it could yet turn out that locking down the planet and effectively crashing the global economy won't help either, but it's what the scientists are currently recommending and to some extent it placates the human need to 'do something'. It is what it is.

[LaxtonLad]

I will leave the Trump loving/hating to the Americans,you know the people who actually live there & witness what is happening with their own eyes, i do of course realise that they lack the insight & knowledge of some on here (one of whom actually knows an American apparently) but obviously this is just another thread designed to give the same old posters something to argue about.

The Americans are certainly welcome to love or hate Trump, so are we. Americans though, those "...who actually live there & witness what is happening with their own eyes..." are bombarded with many news channels and they can take their pick of which to believe. The most popular and Trump's favourite seems to be Fox News which is the visual equivalent of a cross between our Daily Mail and The Beano and is laughably derided by foreign mainstream media as "fake news" as I believe Trump likes to call reports he doesn't like.

In a world of instant news reporting there is no reason to believe that someone living in another country, America, for instance, has a better and fuller knowledge of his nation's situation than somebody in, say, Nottingham, even using their own eyes. An interested spectator in a London newsroom using his own eyes, has a much better informed view of American problems than a Louisiana hill-billy or a Tennessee ploughboy who takes the moonstruck ravings of Donald Trump seriously.

[ancientpie]

The Americans are certainly welcome to love or hate Trump, so are we. Americans though, those "...who actually live there & witness what is happening with their own eyes..." are bombarded with many news channels and they can take their pick of which to believe. The most popular and Trump's favourite seems to be Fox News which is the visual equivalent of a cross between our Daily Mail and The Beano and is laughably derided by foreign mainstream media as "fake news" as I believe Trump likes to call reports he doesn't like.

In a world of instant news reporting there is no reason to believe that someone living in another country, America, for instance, has a better and fuller knowledge of his nation's situation than somebody in, say, Nottingham, even using their own eyes. An interested spectator in a London newsroom using his own eyes, has a much better informed view of American problems than a Louisiana hill-billy or a Tennessee ploughboy who takes the moonstruck ravings of Donald Trump seriously.

What a load of tosh,Americans aren't the only ones to be bombarded with "fake news" we get just as much or is it only fake if you don't agree with it? that is why witnessing things with your own eyes is the only way to be sure of the truth. Using your logic we should perhaps vote in American elections & allow them to vote in ours,would that suit you?

[LaxtonLad]

What a load of tosh,Americans aren't the only ones to be bombarded with "fake news" we get just as much or is it only fake if you don't agree with it? that is why witnessing things with your own eyes is the only way to be sure of the truth. Using your logic we should perhaps vote in American elections & allow them to vote in ours,would that suit you?

You haven't seen your own brains with your own eyes - do you believe you have any?

[frenchmagpie]

You haven't seen your own brains with your own eyes - do you believe you have any?

BOOM ! Great reply.

[ancientpie]

You haven't seen your own brains with your own eyes - do you believe you have any?

Der, not sure on that one,can I phone a friend? COYP