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    It's likely to get worse but at the moment there's only us and Millwall in the cship who aren't playing.
    So two clubs out of 24 is a very small percentage and certainly not appropriate for whole fixture lists to be cancelled.

    Obviously divs 2 and three are more affected

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    Quote Originally Posted by flourbasher View Post
    It's likely to get worse but at the moment there's only us and Millwall in the cship who aren't playing.
    So two clubs out of 24 is a very small percentage and certainly not appropriate for whole fixture lists to be cancelled.

    Obviously divs 2 and three are more affected
    EFL could get off their arses and do some fixture rejuggling with the non-playing but COVID fit teams to free up some time later in the season in case it's needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flourbasher View Post
    The EFL will be desperate for the likes of Sunderland and Portsmouth to get back in the cship so every assistance given and their games are off. What a surprise. Amazing isn't it.
    Let's face it they don't want us there hence the instructions to the refs to play on until the opposition score and we loose points .
    Either that or There,s some bribes being accepted
    It has to be one of the two
    Like you Flour, my gut feeling and instinct tell me the same regarding the EFL and the big clubs in League 1. However, I've spoken to TS a couple of times (on the golf course) and he says we have an excellent relationship with the EFL and an even better one with the FA (England Ladies playing at NYS etc).

    The impression I get is that under Boothy (and the owners after him) we were very much seen as a paria club. On the outside looking in. Stale, boring, outdated. Under TS bridges were built with the EFL and the FA (starting from when we had to move from the DVS back to Rotherham. The EFL would not have kicked us out of the league if we didnt meet the 4 year deadline as long as progress was being made on the new stadium) and we are now viewed very favourably and as a progressive club using a model for others to follow.

    Despite what we think (and I too get those feelings sometimes) the EFL and FA quite like TS's RUFC.

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    Just to add to my post above, the EFL also very much like how we are run financially. Accounts filed every year and on time and the only debt owed is to ASD Lighting (in effect TS). And TS services that debt transparently and to the EFLs satisfaction.

    We are, purely in terms of a financial model I hasten to add, head and shoulders above every single club in the Championship. Last time at this level RUFC posted a profit. Imagine that a football club posting a profit. And whilst we certainly aim to develop players and sell for a profit, the club model is not dependent upon that. Selling players for a profit is a bonus, not a necessity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy King of the West View Post
    Just to add to my post above, the EFL also very much like how we are run financially. Accounts filed every year and on time and the only debt owed is to ASD Lighting (in effect TS). And TS services that debt transparently and to the EFLs satisfaction.

    We are, purely in terms of a financial model I hasten to add, head and shoulders above every single club in the Championship. Last time at this level RUFC posted a profit. Imagine that a football club posting a profit. And whilst we certainly aim to develop players and sell for a profit, the club model is not dependent upon that. Selling players for a profit is a bonus, not a necessity.
    Some excellent points raised there

    To add to them the Paul Warne clean cut family image and happy squad also helps

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    Grumpy's last two posts are up there amongst the most enjoyable I've ever read on here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAMiller View Post
    EFL could get off their arses and do some fixture rejuggling with the non-playing but COVID fit teams to free up some time later in the season in case it's needed.
    That certainly makes sense. Practically I think it would prove impossible. If you look at Rotherham v Middlesbrough and Sunderland v Blackpool from last week. If Middlesbrough vs Blackpool brought forward then on the original date for that fixture Rotherham’s and Sunderlands opponents are available the fixture couldn’t be be played. Seems a shame but logistically impossible.
    Last edited by pip_y; 28-12-2020 at 05:54 AM.

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    Full lockdown on its way im afraid i reckon at least a month

    it ciuld well be another premature end to another season

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy King of the West View Post
    Like you Flour, my gut feeling and instinct tell me the same regarding the EFL and the big clubs in League 1. However, I've spoken to TS a couple of times (on the golf course) and he says we have an excellent relationship with the EFL and an even better one with the FA (England Ladies playing at NYS etc).

    The impression I get is that under Boothy (and the owners after him) we were very much seen as a paria club. On the outside looking in. Stale, boring, outdated. Under TS bridges were built with the EFL and the FA (starting from when we had to move from the DVS back to Rotherham. The EFL would not have kicked us out of the league if we didnt meet the 4 year deadline as long as progress was being made on the new stadium) and we are now viewed very favourably and as a progressive club using a model for others to follow.

    Despite what we think (and I too get those feelings sometimes) the EFL and FA quite like TS's RUFC.
    I'm sure that's correct Grumps and people looking for the outside do like our Chairman and Manager but I still think the EFL would prefer us as a div one club and would prefer others in the cship
    Just because they think we are well run that doesn't mean they want us mixing with the big boys and struggling every season.
    We don't really have a business model to sustain a long stint in the division we,re in whereas other clubs are a much better fit.

    Sunderland and Portsmouth have bigger grounds, a much bigger fan base, attract better players and are much more attractive to sell to the TV companies. Proven by the fact that Sky don't seem to want to show us much unless it's showcasing Ivan Toney,s skills.
    bT are showing us in Jan but that's because we,re playing Everton and every fa cup match is being shown
    Last edited by flourbasher; 28-12-2020 at 09:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flourbasher View Post
    I'm sure that's correct Grumps and people looking for the outside do like our Chairman and Manager but I still think the EFL would prefer us as a div one club and would prefer others in the cship
    Just because they think we are well run that doesn't mean they want us mixing with the big boys and struggling every season.
    We don't really have a business model to sustain a long stint in the division we,re in whereas other clubs are a much better fit.

    Sunderland and Portsmouth have bigger grounds, a much bigger fan base, attract better players and are much more attractive to sell to the TV companies. Proven by the fact that Sky don't seem to want to show us much unless it's showcasing Ivan Toney,s skills.
    bT are showing us in Jan but that's because we,re playing Everton and every fa cup match is being shown
    Agree, what they say to your face is totally different to what they may say behind your back
    It’s good that TS is keeping on their good side but I doubt he’s a fool

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