Deluded and delusional

[MillersTime]

who are the fans you are referring too? Not read anything on this board that fans are wanting players signed up on 15grand aweek on 4 year deals . I’d like longer contacts for our better players so we get more money when or if they leave. But what Rotherham don’t do is start contract talks early . Keep saying it I’m not wanting million pound players but maybe better quality loan signing . But the chairman is fireproof above criticism. Easier to aim a gun at our manager.

I think we sometimes get caught with the lower league mentality with contracts. 2 years max generally because that's the way it is done for security. Because of the general turnover of players. The problem you get is when someone starts really well for 6 months to a season then you'll want to extend, they'll maybe consider somewhere higher up the ladder, you have the year left so can't demand a huge fee and then either sell reasonably or eventually keep them (generally because the higher move isn't actually on).

I absolutely agree if we manage to extend our better players we should aim to get longer on their deals than just another year or two. The hard bit is giving the longer term deals straight off, a good percentage of transfers don't work and then if they are stuck with 3 years left and good money it can be an absolute pain to get rid of them. End up subsiding their wage out on loan which takes money away from other investments.

Also, with our current yo-yoing the better players are constantly testing the market so whilst happy here they don't want to over commit and then a great move comes along but we have them tied down and at a price teams won't pay.

[MillersTime]

If you want longer contracts, that's ok, provided that you understand that players are likely to want a larger financial package to be willing to tie themselves down in that fashion. In other words, you would price yourself out of a larger part of the transfer market.

As for wanting longer contracts for only the 'better players', how are you going to tell who are the better players when you sign them and agree a contract? Sure, you can look at their history, but some players 'click' in a team where others don't. In Rotherham's history you have Tom Pope, who failed to thrive at the club, but scored for fun at Port Vale. Dexter Blackstock is another one - great pedigree, but his signing on a 3 year contract didn't really work out did it?

If only I had waited a minute I could of just agreed with yourself instead of typing for 10 minutes haha. This is the dilemma. Transfers aren't an exact science so nobody wants to over commit. The club or players, all want options.

[Stovicmiller]

If you want longer contracts, that's ok, provided that you understand that players are likely to want a larger financial package to be willing to tie themselves down in that fashion. In other words, you would price yourself out of a larger part of the transfer market.

As for wanting longer contracts for only the 'better players', how are you going to tell who are the better players when you sign them and agree a contract? Sure, you can look at their history, but some players 'click' in a team where others don't. In Rotherham's history you have Tom Pope, who failed to thrive at the club, but scored for fun at Port Vale. Dexter Blackstock is another one - great pedigree, but his signing on a 3 year contract didn't really work out did it?

the alternative is carrying on has we are . No plan , no foundations to build on , basically winging it every season. Reactive not proactive.

[Stovicmiller]

Dexter signing was a panick buy .

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

Deluded and delusional

Are they the two full backs we were interested in?

[great_fire]

Deluded and delusional

Are they the two full backs we were interested in?

Dimitar Delusional signed for Wednesday I think.