Jake Daniels

[Chicken Balti Pie]

I'm with Laddo on this 100%, when I read the post saying he's come out for financial gain and he's got a nice career now out of it, it made me sad to think a fellow pies thinks like that. Absolute nonsense. All these people saying he shouldn't have come out, well why not that's who he is and he's proud of it. It must be frustrating to be presumed straight and have to deal with all the questions about girlfriends and who he's sleeping with etc, now he's got it out in the open we all know where he stands and can move on. Good on him and good luck to him.

If you read what I put again, you'd actually see that I was saying that it was an incentive to "come out". You know full well he'll be on adverts now and get endorsements. I bet one of the "big 6" will also now be linked to signing him for PR. It's the way the world works and fair play to him if he can milk it. The fact that it's news is just sad, it doesn't matter about your ***ual orientation, the fact that it's being made a massive thing shows how far as a society we have to go

[upthemaggies]

If you read what I put again, you'd actually see that I was saying that it was an incentive to "come out". You know full well he'll be on adverts now and get endorsements. I bet one of the "big 6" will also now be linked to signing him for PR. It's the way the world works and fair play to him if he can milk it. The fact that it's news is just sad, it doesn't matter about your ***ual orientation, the fact that it's being made a massive thing shows how far as a society we have to go

Troy Deeney made this exact point when discussing the issue with Louix Theroux around 18 months ago, that the player to come out first would do very well for himself.

[crazyfists]

https://www.theguardian.com/football...nal-footballer

[crazyfists]

If you read what I put again, you'd actually see that I was saying that it was an incentive to "come out". You know full well he'll be on adverts now and get endorsements. I bet one of the "big 6" will also now be linked to signing him for PR. It's the way the world works and fair play to him if he can milk it. The fact that it's news is just sad, it doesn't matter about your ***ual orientation, the fact that it's being made a massive thing shows how far as a society we have to go

What a load of nonsense that his reason for coming out was the incentive that he'll 'do very well for himself' out of it. That the big six will want to sign him for PR cause he's gay is also a load of crap, he'll do well if he's good, if not he'll be a lower league player. Try again on both those points. I agree it's sad that someone coming out is news but that's the macho nonsense around football and male society in general as alot of posts on this thread have proven. Apparently he's not come out cause he's proud of who he is and why hide it, it's so he can make loads of money and sign for the big six. Please behave.

[crazyfists]

I'm not posting again on this thread, it's a load of nonsense ranging from he shouldn't have done it, to he's done it for the financial incentive, to he's done it to be linked or signed by the big six. All of which fail to appreciate that he's done it cause he's proud of who he is, wants others to come out if they want and probably as I've stated numerous times to stop the inevitable questions about getting a girlfriend etc at training and in the changing rooms. Have at it.

[laddo]

I'm not posting again on this thread, it's a load of nonsense ranging from he shouldn't have done it, to he's done it for the financial incentive, to he's done it to be linked or signed by the big six. All of which fail to appreciate that he's done it cause he's proud of who he is, wants others to come out if they want and probably as I've stated numerous times to stop the inevitable questions about getting a girlfriend etc at training and in the changing rooms. Have at it.

It's nonsense, it's disappointing to read but it should be fully expected CF on NCM.

[Chicken Balti Pie]

What a load of nonsense that his reason for coming out was the incentive that he'll 'do very well for himself' out of it. That the big six will want to sign him for PR cause he's gay is also a load of crap, he'll do well if he's good, if not he'll be a lower league player. Try again on both those points. I agree it's sad that someone coming out is news but that's the macho nonsense around football and male society in general as alot of posts on this thread have proven. Apparently he's not come out cause he's proud of who he is and why hide it, it's so he can make loads of money and sign for the big six. Please behave.

Jesus, reading comprehension in here must be at an all time low. I did not say he did it for money, I said that he can be expecting a tidy windfall through coming out, it is massively different. He has his own reasons for doing it, but he will likely make a tidy some by being the first. There will also be a clamour by the PR departments for signing him as it will look good, there was a fantastic article about how certain clubs don't just sign players for their ability but also their commercial aspect, having the first openly gay player for a while will certainly tick that box. I've seen you're not commenting on this topic any more, it probably for the best as you lack the intellectual ability to keep up

[upthemaggies]

Nobody has said that he's done it for the money, have they? I don't want to speak on anybody else's behalf but I think the general point being made is that there's nothing particularly brave or heroic about coming out in the British entertainment industry in 2022. The fact that he's likely to benefit - both financially and in his career as a result of going full public - backing up that very point.

If it were the case that it really was a brave thing to do, he'd be potentially jeopardizing his career and facing widespread condemnation from large sections of the media, the game itself and the general public. That's not going to happen.

We'll have to see where he goes with this before judging his motives. Fair play to Daniels if he does decide to take this further and puts his head above the parapet by drawing direct attention to the communities and nations where gay people are living in genuine fear and danger to the point of being ostracised by family or facing a death sentence. That would be brave and heroic.

I know people don't like having cold water poured on their opportunity to virtue signal, but for god's sake let's have some proper perspective.

[BigFatPie]

Nobody has said that he's done it for the money, have they? I don't want to speak on anybody else's behalf but I think the general point being made is that there's nothing particularly brave or heroic about coming out in the British entertainment industry in 2022. The fact that he's likely to benefit - both financially and in his career as a result of going full public - backing up that very point.

If it were the case that it really was a brave thing to do, he'd be potentially jeopardizing his career and facing widespread condemnation from large sections of the media, the game itself and the general public. That's not going to happen.

We'll have to see where he goes with this before judging his motives. Fair play to Daniels if he does decide to take this further and puts his head above the parapet by drawing direct attention to the communities and nations where gay people are living in genuine fear and danger to the point of being ostracised by family or facing a death sentence. That would be brave and heroic.

I know people don't like having cold water poured on their opportunity to virtue signal, but for god's sake let's have some proper perspective.

Blimey, this thread has accused him of doing it for the fame and adulation, claimed it’s his fault if he gets abused, and now you’re saying he needs to speak out for gay rights across the world. A little reminder that he’s 17, about a year older than my lad who still needs someone to put milk on his coco pops in the morning.

You’re dead right about some perspective being required.

[upthemaggies]

Blimey, this thread has accused him of doing it for the fame and adulation, claimed it’s his fault if he gets abused, and now you’re saying he needs to speak out for gay rights across the world. A little reminder that he’s 17, about a year older than my lad who still needs someone to put milk on his coco pops in the morning.

You’re dead right about some perspective being required.

I haven't said he needs to do anything. I'd be impressed by anybody that did dare speak up, but I wouldn't expect it of anyone.