Budget. Is the Toxic party for real?

[The Bedlington Terrier]

" single mums on Universal Credit living on the Stoops Estate in Burnley or the Oldham's Estate in Bolton have no chance whatsoever of being able to properly feed their kids, never mind think about the benefits of education."

Ah yes, the Stoops Estate in Burnley, tell me about it, or rather mon ami, I'll tell you. Mrs S got her first teaching job at Myrtle Bank on the Stoops Estate in 1970, it was a sink estate, it was a **** hole, I worked at Burnley Fire Station, we were regulars on the Stoops Estate, I felt sorry for the decent people who had to live there, and there were plenty amongst the dross, including single mums. Between me and the missus there wasn't much happening on Stoops that we didn't know about. I could have written a book about it, and this was the 60s and 70s, a period when, apart from 4 years when Fred Teeth mistakenly thought he ran the country, it was run by Labour governments and the Trade Unions.

Plus ca change eh ? And now it's all the Tories fault, you really haven't got a clue mon ami.

We have no chance whatsoever for change mon ami. The Toxic party will see to that.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

" single mums on Universal Credit living on the Stoops Estate in Burnley or the Oldham's Estate in Bolton have no chance whatsoever of being able to properly feed their kids, never mind think about the benefits of education."

Ah yes, the Stoops Estate in Burnley, tell me about it, or rather mon ami, I'll tell you. Mrs S got her first teaching job at Myrtle Bank on the Stoops Estate in 1970, it was a sink estate, it was a **** hole, I worked at Burnley Fire Station, we were regulars on the Stoops Estate, I felt sorry for the decent people who had to live there, and there were plenty amongst the dross, including single mums. Between me and the missus there wasn't much happening on Stoops that we didn't know about. I could have written a book about it, and this was the 60s and 70s, a period when, apart from 4 years when Fred Teeth mistakenly thought he ran the country, it was run by Labour governments and the Trade Unions.

Plus ca change eh ? And now it's all the Tories fault, you really haven't got a clue mon ami.

Given the political will a progressive game changing government in power for 13 years could change all of this round. Sadly, we do not have one.

Putting two Tories on the Stoops Estate is akin to putting King Herod in charge of your first-born son.

[sinkov]

Given the political will a progressive game changing government in power for 13 years could change all of this round. Sadly, we do not have one.

And still you think a change of government is all that's required ? You are so fecking gullible mon ami, you remind me of a child playing in the gutter with his marbles, worried one or two might go down the drain, while the poor little bugger is totally oblivious to the juggernauts and lorries speeding past behind him, just a couple of feet away.

Your almost childlike innocence and faith in our party political system is touching mon ami, at least it would be if you were a child, but you're not, you're supposed to be a grown up. When are you going to start acting like one ?

[army88]

We have no chance whatsoever for change mon ami. The Toxic party will see to that.

Go on BT you’ve perked my interest, in the main I understand your arguments for immigration, education, homelessness etc etc given that we are led by your so called toxic party at the minute who are culpable for everything wrong in the Uk , how would you / Labour differ - where will they generate the money from to right all the wrongs that are in play at the minute, I’ve posted many times there is only one pot of money which is available to any government.

So increases in benefits in line with inflation isn’t good enough for you ? Thousands of immigrants illegally here housed fed and watered also isn’t good enough for you.


I’m self employed and pay tax and Ni as I should , my tax is distributed to subsidise all the people that your complaining for and yet I get less holiday - if I don’t work I don’t get paid and without people like me there would be none of this ( to top that I now have to pay more as of this week to offset the inflation rises against benefits).

The sooner you wake up to the fact that we have a nation of spongers leaching of society and literally pissing themselves laughing at the the politicians, we have our own people who can’t get housing - money - benefits whom genuinely need them and yet we have loads milking the system and enough immigration to sink the island itself all bleeding the country dry.

So my question genuinely is where will you get the money from doing things differently to where it’s generated now.?

Or what/ who will suffer to make sure all of your ideals are met.

Just asking genuine - question

[Supersub6]

Another question about something that is puzzling me in our small town.
People claim to be very hard up and are using food banks, however, four people who I know regularly use the food banks are also regularly seen in our local 'nail shops'.
Are these visits to the nail shops a necessity? Also, I wonder just how many others in similar situations are doing the same all over the country.

My neighbour, who is a retired electrician and used to work at local collieries, decided to volunteer to deliver food parcels to people in the area. He packed it in after three days because he was going to houses, knocking on the door, the bedroom window opened and someone told him to go in and drop the parcel on the table. In three different houses he entered to drop the parcels and there was a plethora of electronic games, consoles etc. and TVs on the wall varying from 50 to 61 inches.
Yes, there are many who genuinely need help, however, as is normal, we have quite a number who are just working the system, as they have been doing all their life.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Another question about something that is puzzling me in our small town.
People claim to be very hard up and are using food banks, however, four people who I know regularly use the food banks are also regularly seen in our local 'nail shops'.
Are these visits to the nail shops a necessity? Also, I wonder just how many others in similar situations are doing the same all over the country.

My neighbour, who is a retired electrician and used to work at local collieries, decided to volunteer to deliver food parcels to people in the area. He packed it in after three days because he was going to houses, knocking on the door, the bedroom window opened and someone told him to go in and drop the parcel on the table. In three different houses he entered to drop the parcels and there was a plethora of electronic games, consoles etc. and TVs on the wall varying from 50 to 61 inches.
Yes, there are many who genuinely need help, however, as is normal, we have quite a number who are just working the system, as they have been doing all their life.

I did two years volunteering in a Citizens Advice Bureau in Middlesborough mein freund. The poverty of a lot of people and the attitude of civil servants paid to help the poor buggers appalled me.

We need serious societal change but from where it will come, I have no idea.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

And still you think a change of government is all that's required ? You are so fecking gullible mon ami, you remind me of a child playing in the gutter with his marbles, worried one or two might go down the drain, while the poor little bugger is totally oblivious to the juggernauts and lorries speeding past behind him, just a couple of feet away.

Your almost childlike innocence and faith in our party political system is touching mon ami, at least it would be if you were a child, but you're not, you're supposed to be a grown up. When are you going to start acting like one ?

Because I keep on ripping the $hit out of the Toxic party seems to bring the name calling worse out in you mon ami. Tell you what, instead of constantly calling me an infant get round to your Constituency MP's office and ask him to get your lot to get their fecking finger out of each other's arseholes and sort this mess out they themselves have created.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Go on BT you’ve perked my interest, in the main I understand your arguments for immigration, education, homelessness etc etc given that we are led by your so called toxic party at the minute who are culpable for everything wrong in the Uk , how would you / Labour differ - where will they generate the money from to right all the wrongs that are in play at the minute, I’ve posted many times there is only one pot of money which is available to any government.

So increases in benefits in line with inflation isn’t good enough for you ? Thousands of immigrants illegally here housed fed and watered also isn’t good enough for you.


I’m self employed and pay tax and Ni as I should , my tax is distributed to subsidise all the people that your complaining for and yet I get less holiday - if I don’t work I don’t get paid and without people like me there would be none of this ( to top that I now have to pay more as of this week to offset the inflation rises against benefits).

The sooner you wake up to the fact that we have a nation of spongers leaching of society and literally pissing themselves laughing at the the politicians, we have our own people who can’t get housing - money - benefits whom genuinely need them and yet we have loads milking the system and enough immigration to sink the island itself all bleeding the country dry.

So my question genuinely is where will you get the money from doing things differently to where it’s generated now.?

Or what/ who will suffer to make sure all of your ideals are met.

Just asking genuine - question

Did you ever watch the "Generation Game" army88. Stuff comes around on a carousel and the contestant manages one item at a time in order of priority.

That's what we need right now. A batch of serious politicians who will prioritise what needs doing and put effort and money into solving the most pressing problems. Stop the haemorrhaging.

So, what do we have. A prime minister without a mandate who f*cks off to Egypt last week and the Ukraine this weekend.

Give me f*cking strength.

[army88]

Did you ever watch the "Generation Game" army88. Stuff comes around on a carousel and the contestant manages one item at a time in order of priority.

That's what we need right now. A batch of serious politicians who will prioritise what needs doing and put effort and money into solving the most pressing problems. Stop the haemorrhaging.

So, what do we have. A prime minister without a mandate who f*cks off to Egypt last week and the Ukraine this weekend.

Give me f*cking strength.

Be honest BT you don’t have an answer but picking one item at a time is irrelevant as for a plus or result in one matter results in a negative on the other - ie Peter to pay Paul

As I said there is only one pot of money and you can distribute it how you like, reality is you’ll upset as many or more as you save or improve their lives.

Until anyone gets a grip of the whole thing and accepts that the NHS is run badly , illegal immigration is a massive problem , benefit fraud is huge , nothing will ever change no matter who is in charge, I admire your belief that it will but I’m my lifetime it hasn’t to press anyway.

The reason I’m pretty miffed is the budget so called will be funded from me and people like me , the middle run if you like - but regardless of what you say or call me I’m sick of paying and propping up a sponging society and illegal immigrants to name but two.

So personally Me and my family are going to suffer to keep the woke brigade happy , immigrants in fancy hotels and lazy work shy B—-stards in cigarettes alcohol and PlayStation games.

[Swissclaret]

It seems to me, reading the posts, that people in Britain miss the point. Squabbling, not very convincingly, about Labour and Conservatives and who is to blame is mere blah, blah, blah. There is nothing to support the idea that they have any idea or, worse still, any solutions.

The reality is that Britain p*sses away tax revenues like there is no tomorrow. The answer to so many ills is where the money goes to.

As an MD, you always have to look at the expense side - where is the money spent. For too long successive Governments have looked at, for example, the NHS and, in delusional moments, argued that it is the envy of the world. Their next sentence is that an additional 40 billion will be added to the budget, paid for by loans.

If it is the envy of world etc why does it need the extra money? Meanwhile, Government statistics demonstrate that it is not working.

The point is that massive amounts of money are p*ssed away, year on year. As sinkov says, the lunatics are running the asylum.

For balance I will add that I admire BT for turning his back on Labour. At least that is principaled. I do not agree that Corbyn heavy is the answer to anything.

And therein lies the ultimate problem - the British people who are not totally stupid have little ability to impose the blindingly obvious on the politicians. To be honest, it would be far better for Britain if the people en masse said that they were not going to vote for either Labour or Conservative parties and voted for the Monster Raving Loony party. At least their views might be implemented!

Wake up my friends, forget about the blame game, use your knowledge and experience to state the problems and the solutions. It is the common sense that is used in daily life by people who think.

Again, as an outsider, all I can say is that you, the taxpayer, are being ripped off, sold a second rate product at inflated prices