O/T attack in Southport.

[Stansmate]

How can someone who killed and wanted to kill so may innocent kids not be labelled a terrorist 😡

But some goody goody human rights lawyer will fight his corner at some huge cost and he'll still get the rest of his life with all the essentials so many decent honest law abiding and loyal people miss out on

Cant go on like this can we ?? Wont be long before people demand a stop to this stuff can see real trouble ahead if not

[UlleyMiller]

How can someone who killed and wanted to kill so may innocent kids not be labelled a terrorist ��

But some goody goody human rights lawyer will fight his corner at some huge cost and he'll still get the rest of his life with all the essentials so many decent honest law abiding and loyal people miss out on

Cant go on like this can we ?? Wont be long before people demand a stop to this stuff can see real trouble ahead if not

Because terrorism is driven by some form of ideology. The police have said (as is generally the case) that this is not currently being treated as a terrorism case. The point largely being to give the wider public some degree of confidence that this isn't the first part of a coordinated attack. The Dunblane massacre wasn't terrorism because it wasn't driven by a political or ideological agenda - it doesn't mean the killer wasn't a complete POS.

Yes, a lawyer will be provided, and unfortunately for them they have to defend what many of us already know is absolutely indefensible. Not a job I'd envy, but ultimately someone has to do that job. We don't have the death sentence any more, so unfortunately a whole life tariff will be the optimal outcome.

[Stansmate]

No terror at all then !!

[UlleyMiller]

No terror at all then !!

Just these conversations really.

[KerrAvon]

are you suggesting that the thousands who attended that march in London at the weekend don’t give a **** about what happened yesterday.

No. That would almost be as silly as blaming every member of an ethnic grouping for the actions of a limited number of members of it.

[KerrAvon]

Because terrorism is driven by some form of ideology. The police have said (as is generally the case) that this is not currently being treated as a terrorism case. The point largely being to give the wider public some degree of confidence that this isn't the first part of a coordinated attack. The Dunblane massacre wasn't terrorism because it wasn't driven by a political or ideological agenda - it doesn't mean the killer wasn't a complete POS.

Yes, a lawyer will be provided, and unfortunately for them they have to defend what many of us already know is absolutely indefensible. Not a job I'd envy, but ultimately someone has to do that job. We don't have the death sentence any more, so unfortunately a whole life tariff will be the optimal outcome.

The only unfortunate thing about defending in a case like this is the inabilty of some people to seperate the actions of an offender from those of their lawyer. Whoever gets the gig will get hate mail and possibly death threats. That's contemporary UK for you.

Criminal lawyers tend to do the job as a vocation; they certainly wouldn't do it for the money that's involved, which is why the criminal bar is dying.

[Stovicmiller]

No. That would almost be as silly as blaming every member of an ethnic grouping for the actions of a limited number of members of it.

. You did say , who amongst them would care , insinuating no one , if that wasn’t the case maybe it should have been worded better.

[frogmiller]

In the last hour another young girl has passed away from her injuries 🥺

[Back of the net]

No. That would almost be as silly as blaming every member of an ethnic grouping for the actions of a limited number of members of it.

A respected Journalist wrote this morning.

Since 2000.
There have been 97 Terrorist murders in the UK
In 94 of these cases 94 of these were Muslims.
90% of the names on the MI5 watch list are Muslims.

Yes a limited number of members of it.
We can’t keep saying Isolated incidents why don’t we say unacceptable incidents that we need to stop.

Nope let’s all send love and prayers that works.

Yes I Know not all are the same but that is just too many any rational person would agree.

[Back of the net]

In the last hour another young girl has passed away from her injuries 🥺

Heartbreaking news just awful. 😢