Free choice?

[mickd1961]

What about this then? https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2020-10-29...-wake-covid-19

Are European countries poorer because they didn’t leave the EU? No. Covid. But Covid had no impact here did it? We’re poorer because of Brexit. It’s always the same. Brexit will get the blame anytime something goes wrong here, but theres always a deathly silence when European countries struggle.

Our economy grew by 0.6% again last month, we aren’t doing that badly.

COVID supply issues changed the business world and the Ukraine war has had a massive financial affect across the whole of Europe.

Brexit is an easy target.

[kettering_baggie]

I remember a drive, not so long ago, from Southsea to Brighton, it took hours, the traffic congestion was awful.

[9goals2hattricks3pen]

I remember a drive, not so long ago, from Southsea to Brighton, it took hours, the traffic congestion was awful.

Not surprised as the road frequently changes from 3 lanes to single lane meaning traffic just rushes into jams. Chichester, Arundel and Worthing on that route all very badly served. M2 M3 M23 M27 all examples of motorways in the south that only go 'part of the way'

[Titchfieldbaggie]

Not surprised as the road frequently changes from 3 lanes to single lane meaning traffic just rushes into jams. Chichester, Arundel and Worthing on that route all very badly served. M2 M3 M23 M27 all examples of motorways in the south that only go 'part of the way'

The A27 from Fareham to Brighton averages 20 mph for the 55 miles. It has taken me 3.5 hours in the past. Not too many routes in the whole country covering this mileage can compete

[9goals2hattricks3pen]

The A27 from Fareham to Brighton averages 20 mph for the 55 miles. It has taken me 3.5 hours in the past. Not too many routes in the whole country covering this mileage can compete

That's going east doesn't get any better if you go west towards Bournemouth. Population of 3+ million along a 100 long mile coastal corridor of which 25 miles is Mway. You wouldn't be able to hear yourself speak for northerners whinging if it was the same up there.

I think we've dispelled the myth London is the south and money cascades from there to here.

[mickd1961]

That 'London was primarily in your thoughts' is exactly the point I was making which is people see London and the south as the same. If you think either the road and rail connections in Suss ex have more money going into their infrastructure than The North you are very much mistaken.

I can give you many examples here is just one. The large coastal towns of Eastbourne and Hastings are only 22 miles apart but to travel between the 2 is via a B Road and despite going through no other towns can take an hour. There's plenty of social deprivation in both.

How many on here have actually travelled south of the M25?

I get that and appreciate what you’re saying.

[SwedishBaggie]

That 'London was primarily in your thoughts' is exactly the point I was making which is people see London and the south as the same. If you think either the road and rail connections in Suss ex have more money going into their infrastructure than The North you are very much mistaken.

I can give you many examples here is just one. The large coastal towns of Eastbourne and Hastings are only 22 miles apart but to travel between the 2 is via a B Road and despite going through no other towns can take an hour. There's plenty of social deprivation in both.

How many on here have actually travelled south of the M25?

”How many on here have actually travelled south of the M25?”

I have. 😎

[Dubbag]

”How many on here have actually travelled south of the M25?”

I have. ��

I did too but back when there was only horses and carts on the roads....

[mickd1961]

”How many on here have actually travelled south of the M25?”
I have. 😎

😂😂😂😂

Yes because you’re foreign and did it in ignorance! 🤭😏😂

[baggieal]

You are comparing apples and pears. Not surprising the north looks so much nicer if it's Inner London v a nice part of Yorks. What would be your honest answer if the choice was Hull (quote;who the f uck wants to live there) v where I am?


https://www.lindfieldparishcouncil.g...eld_19915.aspx

Whilst I'm asking questions of you can you answer 'Why if the north is so attractive are there hundreds of thousands of northerners down here in the south?' I can only think of 1 person I know around here of our generation who was born south of London!

People living in the south east (excluding London) are more intelligent than those living in the north. Not for 1 minute do I think people born in the south are more intelligent than those born in the north. But could it be intelligent northerners chose to migrate south.
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I was referring to London the capital where I worked for many years. You are correct there’s some beautiful suburbs around London - I bought my first property in Kew before moving to Teddington then Reigate. All beautiful places. I just hated commuting into London and coming across dodgy individuals and it was scary with 9/11 then going on the tubes.

Still say though - the quality of life is better up north for a like for like nice area - property prices more sensible and people in general much nicer. Personally - I would never go back but do enjoy the odd weekend to see West End Shows. Lots of professionals in Harrogate have moved up from London with hybrid working as it’s more of a relaxed lifestyle.