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Thread: Trumps Latest Insults are a Disgrace.

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    I doubt Trump has ever apologised. He is an incredibly powerful man-child in a country that is our closest ally and incredibly important to us.

    We dont need an apology. We need him gone and his group of chubby sociopaths.

    Whats amazing is that there are some idiots in his fanbase that think hes there for them. He is not there for them, he only wants power and legacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baggiematt View Post
    I doubt Trump has ever apologised. He is an incredibly powerful man-child in a country that is our closest ally and incredibly important to us.

    We dont need an apology. We need him gone and his group of chubby sociopaths.

    Whats amazing is that there are some idiots in his fanbase that think hes there for them. He is not there for them, he only wants power and legacy.
    Perfect summing up there Matt!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omegstrat6 View Post
    "Behold: The festering carcass of American rot shoved into an Ill-fitting suit; the sleaze of a conman, the cowardice of a draft dodger, the gluttony of a parasite, the racism of a Klansman, the ***ism of a back-alley creep, the ignorance of a bar-stool drunk and the greed of a hedge-fund ghoul-all spray-painted Orange and paraded like a prize hog at a country fair.

    Not a president. Not even a man. Just the diseased distillation of everything this country swears it isn't but has always been-arrogance dressed up as exceptionalism, stupidity passed off as common sense, cruelty sold as toughness, greed exalted as ambition and corruption worshipped like a gospel.

    It is America's shadow made flesh; a rotting pumpkin idol proving that when a nation kneels before money, power and spite, it doesn't just lose it's soul-it ****s out this bloated obscenity and calls it a leader"

    Oliver Kornetzke, US writer and historian on Trump, August 2025.

    Nuff said?
    Thanks Omeg. Absolutely spot on is Oliver Kornetzke. I think he may have stopped at calling him a *****phile in fear of legal action but if, allegedly, the cap fits!

    Is is not quite convenient that Trump makes all this noise, Venezuela, Greenland and now calling European NATO troops cowards is not deflecting what was all over the news at the tail end of last year. That fact that he was involved with Geoffrey Epstein. Is it not a fact that the Epstein news has disappeared totally, there is no more mention of the Epstein files. This fat little orange monster is all over it. His filthy little habit will hopefully come to light. Trump is doing a massive job at keeping the truth at bay with bluster and lies all to cover his involvement.

    History will one day show that fat orange President as being the worst president the USA has ever had. Well I hope it does so, because it needs to.
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    As O'Brien points out, such is the frequency now of both the ridiculous and horrific that comes out of Trump's mouth that the furor over one day's announcement / tweet is quickly forgotten as the next comes along. Tempting to say that this is him going into over drive to deflect from the reported million plus pages still not released of the Epstein files, but I'm not so sure.

    Far too many Americans are inward looking (which might be sort of understandable given the sheer size of their country) but many are now beginning to wake up to the damage he is causing both on the international front and on the domestic one. They are also realising the extent of his selfish grifting that has seen him personally pocket over one billion dollars this term alone. Their own lives are not improving while their POTUS gets richer and still he continues his never ending boasting about his own (non existent) achievements.

    Maybe some of Trump's more recent behaviour is a response to this downturn in his approval ratings at home? Maybe he is starting to become a little worried? Americans are waking up to the fact that, despite his bragging, he is not deporting the murderers and rapists amongst illegal immigrants that he said he would in his election promise but rather devastating communities with ICE abducting many ordinary people who have been legally working and sending them on "dark" flights to detention centres. The fact is that more illegal immigrants were actually deported under Obama than there have been under his own tenure so far, the fact is that the only time Article 5 has been invoked was after 9/11 when the US invoked it and America's NATO allies came to their aid. The fact is that neither inflation nor unemployment figures are down, that his Great Plan for health care has no substance. Maybe he isn't Making America Great Again after all?

    Criticism at home is becoming more widespread just as it is on the international stage. On one side he has the EU belatedly beginning to grow some balls (thank you Carney for the inspiration) and on the domestic front the viewing figures for the likes of Kimmel, Meyers, Colbert and Stewart and others continue to grow to the extent that he is now trying to find another angle that the FCC might use to shut them down. I'm not sure if this is because he simply cannot stand their ridiculing of him or the fact that they increasingly point out the very real Orwellian threats his actions pose.

    Given the multitude of problems we face at home and the weakness of Starmer, it might remain tempting to say that what Trump does or says-however disgusting or ridiculous-does not really matter to us but I would strongly argue that it does. We are so reliant upon the long standing relationship we have with the US, both economically and militarily, that it has to. Moreover, what happens across the pond is often a reflection -if only to a degree-of what begins to happen here and the warning signs around the rise of populism and Farage is there to see for those willing to look a bit closer.

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    To my mind one of the biggest problems is that the majority of the world’s leaders do not actually say it as it is, that he is an odious individual and should be behind bars. Instead they basically massage his ego and humour him. Completely the incorrect way to deal with him and the situation. Take a lead from Mark Carney!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leicesterbaggie View Post
    To my mind one of the biggest problems is that the majority of the world’s leaders do not actually say it as it is, that he is an odious individual and should be behind bars. Instead they basically massage his ego and humour him. Completely the incorrect way to deal with him and the situation. Take a lead from Mark Carney!
    Because they are scared of him LB as the USA are the super power of the world. Mark Carney is a wet lettuce liberal woke and certainly would be mates with dreadful Starmer!

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    It is possible that Trump May actually do something good for us; if he stops the idiot Starmer from giving away (at a cost of billions of pounds) the Chagos Islands, then that will be a big favour to us and the World. He is still an odious individual, though.

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    I think the whole Chagos Island issue has been driven by growing concerns over independence and the legacy of colonialism Ketts. I can certainly understand the islanders wanting their land back and, whilst it is true that the lease will cost us, my understanding is that we retain autonomy of the strategically important airbase for 99 years. This is the important thing surely rather than arguments over why we should pay for something we already owned, given that we stole the land off them in the first place?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omegstrat6 View Post
    I think the whole Chagos Island issue has been driven by growing concerns over independence and the legacy of colonialism Ketts. I can certainly understand the islanders wanting their land back and, whilst it is true that the lease will cost us, my understanding is that we retain autonomy of the strategically important airbase for 99 years. This is the important thing surely rather than arguments over why we should pay for something we already owned, given that we stole the land off them in the first place?
    We are giving it away to Mauritius, they have no historical claim on the islands. As I understand it, the islanders themselves do not want control to pass to Mauritius anyway. As far as the British government (a misnomer if ever there was one) is concerned, their prime responsibility is the defence of the Nation and retaining control of those islands is very much in the interests of this country; that is far more important than the opinions of the hand wringing lawyers such as Starmer and his craven crew.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kettering_baggie View Post
    We are giving it away to Mauritius, they have no historical claim on the islands. As I understand it, the islanders themselves do not want control to pass to Mauritius anyway. As far as the British government (a misnomer if ever there was one) is concerned, their prime responsibility is the defence of the Nation and retaining control of those islands is very much in the interests of this country; that is far more important than the opinions of the hand wringing lawyers such as Starmer and his craven crew.
    Just quickly looked into the history of the islands Ketts as unsure myself.

    The Portuguese "discovered" them in the 1500s but as they had little resources they felt they could use, largely ignored them. France was the first colonial power to take control of them in 1751 which they did alongside neighbouring Mauritius and they granted permits for companies to extract coconut oil on the islands. With the defeat of Napoleon in 1815, the Chagos islands then passed to Britain alongside Mauritius from where they were governed. The British established more coconut plantations across the islands, continuing to use imported slave labour. These slaves were not freed until 1840 and the descendants of these Afro-Indian-Malay slaves and later workers became the Chagossian islanders.

    From 1903, Chagos was administered by Britain from the Seychelles as part of the Empire while Mauritius pushed for independence which was eventually granted in 1968. Part of the deal over independence however was that the UK would pay them £3 million in compensation for allowing Britain to retain the Chagos islands which they needed for the strategically important airbase there. The agreement also stated that the UK would return the islands to Mauritius if they were no longer needed for defence purposes.

    Under pressure from the US, between 1967 and 1973, Britain helped them forcibly remove all the islanders from Chagos to Mauritius and the Seychelles to enable the building of the joint US/ UK military base of Diego Garcia. After independence, Mauritius refused to take further islanders forcibly expelled by Britain from the Chagos unless paid to do so, which the UK eventually agreed to do.

    In 2016, the UK government still rejected the rights of expelled Chagossians to return to their islands after a 45 year dispute and so they took their case to the International Court of Justice which ruled in 2019 that the UK did not have sovereignty over the Chagos islands and that they should be handed over " as rapidly as possible" to Mauritius. The UN General Assembly subsequently backed that decision.

    In 2024, negotiations between the UK and Mauritius saw the islands pass to Mauritius with the exception of Diego Garcia. Many Chagossians were happy with the deal but there were also those (who had moved to the UK or Seychelles rather than Mauritius) that were angered over not being consulted and wary that passing control back to Mauritius would not best represent their own interests either.

    Whatever the history, it seems to me that the bottom line is that we retain control of the strategically important military base on Diego Garcia. That's surely the important thing in regards to our defence even if it costs us?

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