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  1. #1
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneBrianIrvine View Post
    Yep it all comes down to midfield for me as well.
    Feel like I’ve being wanging on about it for years. Apart from that brief spell with Rama don’t think it’s clicked since (I feel dirty) the rat left.

    Now obviously we had the run when JT came in but feel that was as much us being an unknown prospect and likes of Devlin, McGrath etc playing out of their skin.

    I really hope Armstrong is the missing piece. That he can play on the turn and positively. Pig sick of Nilsen playing sideways (and often slackly.) I thought he was outstanding when he came in so really hope we see that again and it’s not just a rapid and irreversible decline. Is it instruction? Palaversa as lovely as a technical player he is doesn’t cover nearly enough ground. Shinnie too slow at times to release the ba (although I’d always want him on the pitch when we are behind). Polvara is obviously not trusted, I do rate him but I’m conscious that that’s been true for every Aberdeen manager not just JT. Clarkson is a football player and I’d build my team around him but JT’s set up doesn’t seem to suit him and he can drift out of games.

    I don’t know if it’s the set up, or the intensity or the approach but all of that is on JT. Our wide (inverted…)players being our ball carriers just hasn’t worked but he seems wedded to it. Keskinin i just don’t see it TBH. I so hoped for a midfield ‘runner’ in the window.

    Apart from Armstrong the guys above have all been here for over a season but he still doesn’t know his first picks.

    And as much as I’ve criticised them, the individual calibre of player in there is so much better than the likes of Ojo, Vyner, Ball, Forrester, Gleeson, Bryson etc but we’re not achieving anything more than them*.

    I’m still hanging on to that early run and that it IS just nuance and once we hit on a line up we’ll settle in but it’s been an awful long time now and JT’s changes nearly always only being like for like does worry me. I’m not quite as confident in his system as you but momentum is such a huge factor so touch wood and fingers crossed.


    *of course the exception being the cup when JT did alter his system…
    Aye OBI min, all that is pretty much is spot on min, and it is hard to disagree with any of it.
    I still think we should be going with two up top. I would also build my midfield and wingers around Clarkson as there is no doubt he has the skill and ability but for some reason JT does not seem to recognize this which is baffling.
    I would like to see us go:
    Mitov.
    Dorrington (or Milne)
    Knoester
    Gyamfi
    Devlin (nae laughing up the back of the bus)
    Armstrong (or Shinnie) (Captain role)
    Clarkson
    Karlsson
    Milanovic (although nae convinced with him as of yet)
    Nisbet
    Lazetic

    Ok a tweak here and there but something like that would work for me and I really think is worth giving it a go

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneBrianIrvine View Post
    better than the likes of Ojo, Vyner, Ball, Forrester, Gleeson, Bryson etc
    I mind Ojo, mostly because of 57V frequently reminding us of that rat PJM who assaulted him mid-game. The others though... who?

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    The frustrating thing is that we have some very good football players, but for whatever reason it's just not clicking.
    My reason for wanting it to click, is knowing the path we go down if it doesn't

    It took Jimmy 18 months to get it right at Elfsborg, we are not far off that now and I know our record over the past 31 league games is a shocker, but that cup win gives him time, at least the first round of league games for me.

    Shinnie I still want in the team, but we need to utilise him correctly, as he can't do it all, but you can never fault his effort.

    Every team needs a Brian Grant.
    They don't get the praise, they actually get a lot of stick, but you miss them when not in the team.
    Help the defence and let the flair players do their thing.

    I don't think that player is Nilsen. Adapting to the Scottish game at 33 was a step too much for him. Better and younger players than him have failed in our 'pub' league.
    Even during our winning run last season, he still gave the ball away a lot, but results masked a lot of issues in the team, but nobody cared when we were winning.

    I think we might see Tobers in the middle. I think it was Rico, who says that midfield is his position in the Latvian team and can't do much worse than what we are currently seeing.

    This football managing lark isn't quite as easy as most of us think it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDeeDon View Post
    I think we might see Tobers in the middle. I think it was Rico, who says that midfield is his position in the Latvian team and can't do much worse than what we are
    I’ve variously seen shouts for Tobers, Milne, Jensen and Dorrington all to be tried in midfield which is pretty damning given the plethora of central midfielders we have. Its why I still find it hard to accept it’s entirely personnel related.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDeeDon View Post

    Every team needs a Brian Grant.
    LOVE this. LOVE it. Bob on. Loved Granty and it’s been my main bugbear for a long time.
    Does his loon still play? Worth a look?

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    Pretty much 100% what Brian said.

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    I think it must’ve been on team of the decade or a season review video but every time I drive by bannockburn, the phrase ‘Brian Grants from Bannockburn so naturally he’s a battler’ pops into my head

    Funny how stuff like that sticks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mason89 View Post
    I think it must?ve been on team of the decade or a season review video but every time I drive by bannockburn, the phrase ?Brian Grants from Bannockburn so naturally he?s a battler? pops into my head

    Funny how stuff like that sticks
    I read that in the voice of Jock Brown

    All the best to your dad Rico

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    Thanks obi.

    Age catches up on all of us eventually but at least he still has his humour.

    He texted earlier to say at least he managed to get us out of going to the football today

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    Quote Originally Posted by RED_JOHN View Post
    Where are you hiding Rico? I am awaiting your response to my 3 questions.
    I wasnt hiding my dad had to go into hospital on Wednesday so ive been dealing with that, fortunately he is on the mend and looks like he will get home tomorrow.

    Remind me what your 3 questions were?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rico94 View Post
    I wasnt hiding my dad had to go into hospital on Wednesday so ive been dealing with that, fortunately he is on the mend and looks like he will get home tomorrow.

    Remind me what your 3 questions were?
    Good to hear he is on the mend.

    A straight yes or no will do with these few questions from yourself

    Are you happy to see Steven Gunn leave his position at Aberdeen FC?

    Do you think Alan Burrows role at Aberdeen FC is necessary in a footballing capacity?

    Is Jimmy Thelin the manager you can fully support at the club?

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