O/T Coronavirus Thread (3)

[flourbasher]

Is ROFL the same as LMFAO but without the swearing

[WanChaiMiller]

And Andrew Marr was a Maoist.

Is that a Pacific Islander?

[ragingpup]

Still is right-wing it should have said, the point being, Maoists and Communist students can change but apparently right-wingers like Nick Robinson and Andrew Neil stay right-wing, according to you lot anyway.

ROFL and LOLZ. You kill me Greatsie 😂

[frogmiller]

Orange for us mate.

Whatever that means

I'll put the tent up int garden for you both!

[great_fire]

Having just watched "Yesterday".

https://www.reddit.com/r/beatles/com...ng_quarantine/

[the_idiotb_stardson]

Died of Covid 19
Died with Covid 19
Died after showing symptoms of Covid 19
Died after testing positive for Covid 19
Died of Coronavirus
Died with coronavirus
Died after showing symptoms of coronavirus
Died after testing positive for coronavirus.

All mean different things.

Glad some medical staff especially in the USA, are having the courage to speak out about how deaths are being recorded

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

Died of Covid 19
Died with Covid 19
Died after showing symptoms of Covid 19
Died after testing positive for Covid 19
Died of Coronavirus
Died with coronavirus
Died after showing symptoms of coronavirus
Died after testing positive for coronavirus.

All mean different things.

Glad some medical staff especially in the USA, are having the courage to speak out about how deaths are being recorded

Yes interesting differences.

also according to the London mayor there are at least 770,000 people permanently living in England that understand no English yet all of the government bulletins in the press and regularly repeated on the TV are all broadcast in English, not even with subtitles in other languages.

[the_idiotb_stardson]

Yes interesting differences.

also according to the London mayor there are at least 770,000 people permanently living in England that understand no English yet all of the government bulletins in the press and regularly repeated on the TV are all broadcast in English, not even with subtitles in other languages.

Yes interesting differences.

also according to the London mayor there are at least 770,000 people permanently living in England that understand no English yet all of the government bulletins in the press and regularly repeated on the TV are all broadcast in English, not even with subtitles in other languages.

Grist there should have been a parliamentary debate before the lockdown, which in my opinion has been the wrong strategy.

Extremely qualified epidemiologists and experts have challenged the statistics and the strategy. I am not sure anyone on here comes close to their expertise,I certainly don't, yet these EXPERTS were ignored. The cowardice of the Labour party was monumental. After a kicking at the elections, they didn't have the balls to ask for a debate. The measures could still have been introduced but experts needed to be consulted and not just those tied up with certain organisations giving a kickback.


How can you know how serious a disease is until you have a base rate for infection?

If you tests 100 people positive and 10 die it looks serious.

If however 100,000 have got it and 10 die it is not as serious.

This guy explains it much better than me.
https://swprs.org/open-letter-from-p...angela-merkel/



The health implications of the lockdown are going to be so big, they will be beyond analysis. The worst is still to come and it will last for decades.


This post is probably an act of subversion now. Democracy. It's pathetic.

No theory has ever been weakened by robust debate.

Kill debate and you kill democracy.

England is finished.

[ragingpup]

Grist there should have been a parliamentary debate before the lockdown, which in my opinion has been the wrong strategy.

Extremely qualified epidemiologists and experts have challenged the statistics and the strategy. I am not sure anyone on here comes close to their expertise,I certainly don't, yet these EXPERTS were ignored. The cowardice of the Labour party was monumental. After a kicking at the elections, they didn't have the balls to ask for a debate. The measures could still have been introduced but experts needed to be consulted and not just those tied up with certain organisations giving a kickback.


How can you know how serious a disease is until you have a base rate for infection?

If you tests 100 people positive and 10 die it looks serious.

If however 100,000 have got it and 10 die it is not as serious.

This guy explains it much better than me.
https://swprs.org/open-letter-from-p...angela-merkel/



The health implications of the lockdown are going to be so big, they will be beyond analysis. The worst is still to come and it will last for decades.


This post is probably an act of subversion now. Democracy. It's pathetic.

No theory has ever been weakened by robust debate.

Kill debate and you kill democracy.

England is finished.

Your post is not an act of subversion. It is an opinion expressed on a footy message board.

The opinions expressed in your link are not being supressed. In fact they are being expressed on national editorials by newspapers such as the Daily telegraph who are pushing for the lockdown to end.

England is not dead. Nor anywhere else. You just have a minority opinion on this and many other issues. Find ways of coping with that. Flower arranging or yoga might help.

[the_idiotb_stardson]

I knew someone would do this. The Bhakdi quote was from weeks ago.

All the debate about no lockdown didn't start this week.It has been there from the beginning. I have no idea if it has any credibility or not. I really don't have the intelligence. But I can point to many experts, qualified experts who did have doubts. They at least should have been listened to. Like I say, lockdown the country for a week and let's hear the arguments. If those scientists who questioned the response did not have their ducks in a row they would be exposed. What is there to fear?

The fact that leading experts, actual medical experts (not Bill Gates) were not heard is an absolute scandal.

Stand up any epidemiologists on this site? Stand up any qualified people on virus control? Well there are many experts out there who are qualified who have always disagreed with the lockdown. They were not heard.


Piers Morgan and Bill Gates have more influence than genuine medical experts. Parliament **** themselves after Brexit.


Let people speak, no let the experts speak, let those who are pushing certain agendas be quizzed about their own interest in pursuing that agenda.


Those who can do a modicum of research, can see a money trail. Is it significant? I have no idea but put them on the spot to defend their decisions.


Are those who questioned the lockdown wrong or right?. Who knows? But one thing is for certain they know more than me or you or anyone else on this site. If they were right then the catastrophe that is going to be beyond measure, which is coming, could have been avioded.


Without going in to details I have a personal story about the virus. It has had an impact on my family. There is no doubt a virus and it is potentially fatal. Quarantine the over 70's ..sure. But the impact of this lockdown which can't be quantified, is going to roll and roll. And who will suffer? Which health service will suffer? Whose going to foot the bill? We all know the answer to that and it won't cause a ripple in certain peoples lifestyles who call the shots.



The fact that you question censorship is truly astonishing. The Eamon Holmes fiasco is just the tip of the iceberg