O/T Democracy

[BigLadonOS]

So Parliament has been suspended.

This means MPs can return to their home turf and do some work for those that voted for them.

Oh look it's a flying pig

The thing with all the uproar about proroguing Parliament was just a sham and a side show from the Labour party who were saying that they wanted to sit during conference time and not have conferences while all the time continuing to sell tickets for the conference! Typical of this Labour party saying one thing while all the time doing another. ****ers.

[great_fire]

The thing with all the uproar about proroguing Parliament was just a sham and a side show from the Labour party who were saying that they wanted to sit during conference time and not have conferences while all the time continuing to sell tickets for the conference! Typical of this Labour party saying one thing while all the time doing another. ****ers.

The uproar was a sham as they still managed to put the handcuffs on Boris but the proroguing itself was a mistake as it just galvanised the opposition.

[BigLadonOS]

The uproar was a sham as they still managed to put the handcuffs on Boris but the proroguing itself was a mistake as it just galvanised the opposition.

I still think it was a master stroke by Boris because while ever the other parties are getting together to foil him they are kicking themselves in aras for when a GE is called.

[great_fire]

Now Corbyn says there will be a leave option on the next referendum, McDonnell and Nugee say otherwise.

Labour are still all over the place, how can you vote for them when you don't know what you're getting?

[flourbasher]

Now Corbyn says there will be a leave option on the next referendum, McDonnell and Nugee say otherwise.
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Mcdonell said there won't be a leave option without a deal.

[KerrAvon]

No deal is not unlawful animal because those clever labour and other scumbags have failed to put in the bill that the existing depart date of oct 31 has to be amended! Oh dear how silly of them. ****ers.

The UK Parliament can't unlaterally amend the departure date. The EU has a say.

No Deal is not and never has been unlawful. It is and will remain the default position. Johnson is required to ask for an extension and that is all. The terms in which he does that are for him alone to determine. I would imagine that he will say that he is required to ask for an extension by a Parliament that has been unwilling to accept the deal on offer or no deal and that it is unclear what the requested extension is supposed to achieve other than prolonging the uncertainty for all parties. That's what I would do - tell it as it is and leave the rest to Macron.

Still hot here, but decent sailing.

[BigLadonOS]

The UK Parliament can't unlaterally amend the departure date. The EU has a say.

No Deal is not and never has been unlawful. It is and will remain the default position.

This is of course true because you cannot supersede one law over another unless you first quash the original law which this bill fails to do.

If Boris also refuses to appoint a commissioner they would not be able to agree to it anyway because it will be a new session and without a commissioner from the UK the council would not be able to pass anything that needs the full cooperation of all 28 countries as this extension request requires.

[ragingpup]

The UK Parliament can't unlaterally amend the departure date. The EU has a say.

No Deal is not and never has been unlawful. It is and will remain the default position. Johnson is required to ask for an extension and that is all. The terms in which he does that are for him alone to determine. I would imagine that he will say that he is required to ask for an extension by a Parliament that has been unwilling to accept the deal on offer or no deal and that it is unclear what the requested extension is supposed to achieve other than prolonging the uncertainty for all parties. That's what I would do - tell it as it is and leave the rest to Macron.

Still hot here, but decent sailing.

Do you think Macron might not have noticed that there is likely to be an upcoming GE in the UK and a possible change of negotiating strategy from the Conservative hard right?

Do you think he'd be so stupid as to not just bide his time?

[KerrAvon]

A GE with a wholly uncertain outcome?

Bear in mind that your party repeatedly whipped it's MPs to vote against the deal that the EU is offering. Why would the EU believe that a new Parliament is going to agree to a deal?

[ragingpup]

A GE with a wholly uncertain outcome?

Bear in mind that your party repeatedly whipped it's MPs to vote against the deal that the EU is offering. Why would the EU believe that a new Parliament is going to agree to a deal?

What have they got to lose by not waiting to see what the outcome of the GE might be?