This insanity is endless...

[Balanbam00]

Oh dear BT : ....and our lot? No ,no I do not follow no dogmatic religion.

Each religion proclaims themselves superior and that the followers of their religion are the chosen ones, while others are not even human but creatures of hell - doomed forever.
For example, Muslims term Jews as pigs, and vice versa. The Christians think all non-Christians are heretics and vile - fit for hell fire. Every religion is antagonistic towards the other religions. They each preach unity within their own religion - and hatred without. In day to day living, blind adherents of a particular religion harbour enmity towards the followers of other religions.

Most surprisingly, those who are not dedicated followers of any of the religions think the various religions can be united and live in harmony. Those people do not follow a particular religion, do not study the scripture or any creed, nor do they listen to the words of those preachers. Yet somehow, they think those religions can bring peace and social justice. They live in the dark thinking that religious unity can bring welfare to society. This is just their ignorance.

Remember, as long as the various religions exist and their provincial teachings are preached - there will be blind believers of those poisonous ideas who spread hatred and venom between the various religions. Religion itself is the problem - not a rallying point for unity in times of crisis.

"Almost every religion has claimed that only its followers are God's chosen people and that the rest of humanity is cursed and bound by the chains of Satan. One religion has declared, “Our prophet is the only saviour. There is no escape from mundane sufferings except by taking refuge in him.” Another religion has declared, “I am the last prophet. Prayers must be said before God a specific number of times in a certain manner each day. Special animals must be sacrificed on particular days. These are the wishes of merciful God. Those who follow these injunctions will attain heaven on the Day of Judgement.” Yet another religion says, “Know ye, my son, thy God is the only God. All other gods are false gods.” Just imagine, all these religions preach universal fraternity, and yet this universal fraternity is kept within the confines of their own community. Humanity gasps for breath at such preposterous claims of universal fraternity."
"Carried away by the grandiose slogans of their respective religions, the followers of these religions have at different times whipped up a frenzy of communal hatred and indulged in orgies of genocide."

Just the downfall of capitalism is happening now. That's all. Even before your eyes you can see this!

[outwoodclaret]

The Christians think all non-Christians are heretics and vile - fit for hell fire.

You appear to be woefully misinformed about Christianity today. I do not feel superior to any other religion or indeed atheists. I follow the teachings of Jesus not because I was forced to but because I chose to. The problem with Islam is that devotees believe their prophet was perfect and the Koran is perfect hence all other teachings are irrelevant. As I used to be an atheist it comes down to a choice about the values you intend to uphold in your life. The critics of capitalism and the role religion played in its onward march have been around for a long time. I would love to kill time but not anything else.

[sinkov]

Here you are Outwood, I'm sure this would get to No 1 if they pushed it hard enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjZ_...nel=AlexSeraia

[Supersub6]

If 2020 is telling us anything, it’s telling us to enjoy the moments we have, and don’t take any day or anyone or anything for granted ---que sera sera.

I never thought the comment I wouldn’t touch them with a 6 foot barge pole would become national policy but there you have it.

At the Supermarket there was a big X beside the check out for me to stand on, I’ve seen too many Road Runner cartoons to fall for that one,

[oldcolner]

Indeed there are OC, there are numerous highly qualified individuals, medical and scientific bodies disagreeing about the current Lockdown policy. The reason it's not obvious there are, is because the government and most of the media do not give any space to dissenting voices, for instance I've just had a look at the BBC website, there are over 30 Covid stories to choose from, not one of them questions in any shape or form government policy. It's taken as a given that the government way is the only way, so of course people like your good self and 59/60, who trust the BBC and get their news and info from it, don't know any different.

Name some of the numerous Official committees or bodies that disagree. Maybe the BBC can’t find any that do? A few ad hoc groups complained in April but they had no status and have gone quiet now.
How many other countries are doing this that have nothing to do with Boris, open your eyes and see as the song says
Try Scotland Wales Ireland France Germany Australia and China and Asian countries.
Head wobble time Sinkov.

[sinkov]

Name some of the numerous Official committees or bodies that disagree. Maybe the BBC can’t find any that do?

Here's a few to be going on with OC, but don't try too many at one go, it might come as a shock to someone who relies on the BBC for his news. Check them out, see what they're saying, if you have an open mind it shouldn't really be a problem, but somehow I suspect a lie down in a darkened room, with a nice cup of tea might be advisable afterwards.

Professor Martin Marshall, chairman of the Royal College of General Practitioners.
Jonathan Sumption QC.
Recovery.
Jay Bhattacharya, Professor of Medicine at Stanford University.
Professor Carl Heneghan, director for the Centre of Evidence-Based Medicine.
Clare Craig, Consultant Pathologist, Imperial College Healthcare Trust/Head of Pathology at Panakeia.
Martin Kulldorff, PhD, Professor of Medicine at Harvard Medical School/biostatistician and epidemiologist in the Division of Pharmacoepidemiology .
Sunetra Gupta, Professor of theoretical epidemiology at the Department of Zoology, University of Oxford.

That should do to be going on with OC, but trust me, I can give you plenty more where they came from, dozens of them.

[oldcolner]

Here's a few to be going on with OC, but don't try too many at one go, it might come as a shock to someone who relies on the BBC for his news. Check them out, see what they're saying, if you have an open mind it shouldn't really be a problem, but somehow I suspect a lie down in a darkened room, with a nice cup of tea might be advisable afterwards.

Professor Martin Marshall, chairman of the Royal College of General Practitioners.
Jonathan Sumption QC.
Recovery.
Jay Bhattacharya, Professor of Medicine at Stanford University.
Professor Carl Heneghan, director for the Centre of Evidence-Based Medicine.
Clare Craig, Consultant Pathologist, Imperial College Healthcare Trust/Head of Pathology at Panakeia.
Martin Kulldorff, PhD, Professor of Medicine at Harvard Medical School/biostatistician and epidemiologist in the Division of Pharmacoepidemiology .
Sunetra Gupta, Professor of theoretical epidemiology at the Department of Zoology, University of Oxford.

That should do to be going on with OC, but trust me, I can give you plenty more where they came from, dozens of them.

Tried but can’t find anything for Marshall or Heneghan. We don’t have a lockdown policy yet, other countries do. Here’s some Public Health doctors offering advice which the chief Scientist and Medical Officer seem to be following here.
One was my old boss.

https://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2020/09/21...ent-5079217714

[sinkov]

Experts, don't you just luv 'em, Imperial says they are, Kings says they're not. So which to believe, you might as well toss a coin. They don't really have a clue do they, if they did they'd all be in agreement, but they're not.

"Covid-19 rates are not surging, researchers at King's College have said after results from its symptom tracker app showed a far less deadly virus trajectory than Imperial College findings.

Earlier in the week, Imperial released interim data from its React-1 study which showed there are now nearly 100,000 new coronavirus cases a day in England, with nearly one million people infected. The Imperial team said rates were doubling every nine days and it was a critical time for lowering the 'R' rate.

However, King's College – which has been monitoring the symptoms and test results of millions of people through its app – said it was not seeing such alarming numbers. The app found 43,569 daily new symptomatic cases on average, and calculated that doubling was happening every 28 days."

[sinkov]

Here's a reality check, with hospital admissions allegedly going through the roof, some journos have been trying find out what admissions normally run at in October, when the flu season kicks in, but have been having difficulty finding the relevant stats. One journo was even unkind enough to suggest that perhaps they had disappeared because the government had something to hide, but I can't believe that.

However one intrepid journo did manage to unearth a graph showing admission rates in autumn from 2010/11 to 2015/6. The October figures ranged from around 18,000 in 2010 to around 24.500 in 2016. Up to October 27th this year the figure is 19,915, so with four days to go, and with admissions running at about 1,200 a day, it's looking like the total this year will be around 24,000, roughly the same as 2016 then.

You can see why the government and the mad SAGE scientists, Dumb and Dumber, don't want these figures in the public domain can't you, doesn't exactly fit in with their narrative that the NHS is going to be over-run does it.

[Norder]

Here's a reality check, with hospital admissions allegedly going through the roof, some journos have been trying find out what admissions normally run at in October, when the flu season kicks in, but have been having difficulty finding the relevant stats. One journo was even unkind enough to suggest that perhaps they had disappeared because the government had something to hide, but I can't believe that.

However one intrepid journo did manage to unearth a graph showing admission rates in autumn from 2010/11 to 2015/6. The October figures ranged from around 18,000 in 2010 to around 24.500 in 2016. Up to October 27th this year the figure is 19,915, so with four days to go, and with admissions running at about 1,200 a day, it's looking like the total this year will be around 24,000, roughly the same as 2016 then.

Excellent - need more of this....Sinkov - but it has to go mainsteam...that being where they rope the dopes.




Flu figures are right down....so less again even.