O/T:- ⚠️Impressed with the leadership [The UK Party Politics Thread]

[Kent Magpie]

Sorry mate but what utter boll*cks

Not been watching the news over the past few days then? The bit about the EDL is speculation I?d admit, but the rest is in the news and on twitter.

[Med Pie]

Not been watching the news over the past few days then? The bit about the EDL is speculation I?d admit, but the rest is in the news and on twitter.

As the EDL has not existed for about ten years, I find that it's most often the mind****ed people of the left who continue to refer to it and blame it for all sorts of things. Musk is clearly of the opinion that Robinson is a political prisoner and all but those, blinded by partizan politics can see that he actually is just that.

In terms of Musk finding an alternative for his donation of $100 million, I wouldn't be surprised to see the formation of a new party who might put TR up for a parliamentary seat, I've seen it suggested. All this in fighting does nothing to help the right, fragmenting the vote is not the way to unseat Labour and replace them with people who really have the country and it's people at heart. A party who will brush aside the much misused and misapplied Human Rights Act which allows jailed *****philes and other foreign criminals to be released back in to UK society and not be deported. This party would ideally, free up 15,000 gaol cells by deporting the foreigners who currently occupy them and make space for the real, violent criminals who are being released in order to accommodate those who've transgressed online.

Yes, the Tories did fail to deport enough people but you have to admit there were innumerable, obstacles both legal and physical, placed in their way when they tried. This new party would also instruct pilots to take off with their plane load of deportees, even if there are half a dozen, middle aged women, handcuffed to the front wheel.

The radical left, has to be removed from the influential positions they hold, which allow them to distort society in the way they have. This new party would ideally, ban rainbow corner flags, bootlaces, armbands and the like. The original aim, to eradicate and criminalise, discrimination on the grounds of ***uality, has morphed somehow in to a promotional vehicle for minority ***ualities. I don't support homophobic chants or songs and I certainly would not care what people do in the privacy of their own homes when choosing who I'm friends with but neither do I want to see men in arseless chaps or clad in some other, obscene, fetish gear, prancing through the streets of Hockley in some misguided, celebration of homo***uality. The parade I blindly, stumbled in to the the middle of last year, was an obscenity, on full view to children. There needs to be more oversight, a conversation has to be had with the organisers as to what is decent and acceptable in the middle of our City, during the day and what is not.

Someone very close to me actually came out to me years ago and confessed that he had a crush on my then, best pal when we were at school, we had a giggle and moved on, I haven't deleted his contact details and our friendship remains intact. Going back a few years and a girl I'd been to school with was a lesbian and we were pretty close to the point where she asked if I'd consider being a surrogate father to a baby, sadly, she and her partner are unable to have children so, like that plane full of Jamaican gangsters, that never got off the ground.

I provide this bit of background to head off the oh so predictable accusations that I'm homophobic, I certainly am not but neither do I need to see rainbow this and rainbow that, everywhere I look and most of my gay friends actually agree with me.

Anyway, sorry about that, it got away from me a bit there, I only intended a line about the EDL and where Musk's money might eventually go.

[keldsyke]

Well, he was going to fund Reform to the tune of ?100m as he thought they were friends of Stephen Yaxley-Lennon. When he realised that they weren?t that far right he dropped them. Keep your eyes out for funding going towards the English Defence League though.

Intrigued, please show a link to this EDL story

[keldsyke]

Not been watching the news over the past few days then? The bit about the EDL is speculation I?d admit, but the rest is in the news and on twitter.

Tell us more about the EDL speculation please

[Elite_Pie]

Tell us more about the EDL speculation please

As he said, it's speculation!

[Lullapie]

As he said, it's speculation!

There's speculation that Lionel Messi is going to leave Miami and take up a coaching role at Notts County - utter 8ollox, but I am speculating.

[keldsyke]

As he said, it's speculation!

Really, amazing that seeing as the EDL ceases to exist anymore, more desperation and made up stuff from the unbalanced Lefties on here who can?t see the train crash heading towards them.

Come on lads I?ll say it again admit it, you, BFP and the rest of the Tooting popular front on here have been had over by Labour big time, you can?t really defend this lot anymore. I admire your allegiance but it?s becoming embarrassing now, do you want to buy some magic beans?

[Elite_Pie]

Admit it, you have been had over by Labour big time, you can?t really defend this lot anymore.

Where have I defended Labour before?

Give me an example.

[Lullapie]

Where have I defended Labour before?

Give me an example.

What would you class as 'defending Labour' as I'm certain in many Tory posters' eyes, that all you do on political posts, but in many Labour posters' eyes, you've never defended them.

[keldsyke]

Don't make the common error though of confusing people who are anti-immigration and people who are anti-illegal immigration.

I'm not sure who they are - from my experience on NCM, the majority are either pro-open immigration or pro-controlled immigration.


However, you are close to a weird thing I noticed, since moving abroad.

You tend to find that people who have emigrated to another country legally, are the most ardent supporters of enforcing that country's immigration system. It may be because they have experienced the damage that an unregulated immigration system can do.

Spot on, after living and working in the EU I have experienced the abuse of going to another country and being called out for taking a potential natural residents job and asked numerous times why I am not back in my own country by the locals. If you have only have lived in the same country and not experienced life from the other side then you have not seen it from all angles. The point about pro-open immigration and pro-controlled immigration is spot on too, we need immigration but it needs to be controlled, most arriving on boats are not fleeing tyranny they see the bright lights and that is what attracts them, as someone who has gone into another culture you understand from the feelings you experience that you have to fit in mainly to the culture that you have arrived in, you will always be who and what you are but you have to make the effort so you can see why when an immigrant commits crime etc that the local residents get angry and questions why they are there.

The friends and colleagues I made while living and working abroad and still have contact with and see are some of the best people I have ever met in my life, but I had to make the effort to gain their trust at first. The fact is in summary, when you have been part of the whole being / living / working in a different country you see things differently but things have to be in a controlled and managed situation .

I heard a really good example recently if a stranger comes down your garden path you expect them to knock on your door and wait until someone answers, you do not expect a stranger to walk down your garden path and let themselves in and make themselves at home. Its funny that when you come back to your place of birth and you see what is going off after being in a similar position you do not accept it as you know the lack of respect being shown by people coming here is not what you have given when the situation was reversed.