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    In the days of the terrorism of the PLO and at the time of the troubles in Ireland I had envisaged a solution of moving the Irish to Palestine and the Palestinians to Ireland. Perhaps I should have run for office in the USA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Med Pie View Post
    You mean forced expulsion, ethnic cleansing. He's giving Netanyahu, exactly what he wants, if the Palestinians are moved from Gaza, Israel will illegally, annexe and expand. The Palestinians will never be allowed to return.
    Mis quoted again, the Palestinians will be able to live there.Throughout time nations & people have had to be guided through to make them decent people, same here.
    The alternative with Gaza is to rinse and and repeat, which does not and has not worked,POTUS has an idea, a solution and it is liked by a lot of others in the middle east, obviously not the terrorists, who need wiping out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dug Out View Post
    Mis quoted again, the Palestinians will be able to live there.Throughout time nations & people have had to be guided through to make them decent people, same here.
    The alternative with Gaza is to rinse and and repeat, which does not and has not worked,POTUS has an idea, a solution and it is liked by a lot of others in the middle east, obviously not the terrorists, who need wiping out.
    Under what authority can he remove the Palestinians, take control of Gaza and decide who can then live there?

    'Throughout time nations & people have had to be guided through to make them decent people,'

    In other words, ethnically cleanse the area.

    This man is imo very, very dangerous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magpie_mania View Post
    Under what authority can he remove the Palestinians, take control of Gaza and decide who can then live there?

    'Throughout time nations & people have had to be guided through to make them decent people,'

    In other words, ethnically cleanse the area.

    This man is imo very, very dangerous.
    Under the authority world peace, Gaza is a basket case along with being a bombed wasteland that is no good even to the Palestinians, they have got to be shown the way of peace and prosperity but they cannot see that beacon whilst Hamas/ Hezbula are ruling with AK47's, Trumpalong with other middle east nations are goiing to do it a different way new ideas, trillions of dollars......... jobs, peace, prosperity, this has got to be the way not rinse & repeat what is now. Unlike most here i have been to Gaza, many years ago, it was a typical middle east enclave, people that didn't want to kill you, markets, souke'good food, it could very well have been a riveria on the Med, along comes PLO, all gone!. It's no good looking at the UN to keep peace, i worked for it, it is a gravy train now, useless, under Major general U'thant it was credible, not nw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dug Out View Post
    Under the authority world peace, Gaza is a basket case along with being a bombed wasteland that is no good even to the Palestinians, they have got to be shown the way of peace and prosperity but they cannot see that beacon whilst Hamas/ Hezbula are ruling with AK47's, Trumpalong with other middle east nations are goiing to do it a different way new ideas, trillions of dollars......... jobs, peace, prosperity, this has got to be the way not rinse & repeat what is now. Unlike most here i have been to Gaza, many years ago, it was a typical middle east enclave, people that didn't want to kill you, markets, souke'good food, it could very well have been a riveria on the Med, along comes PLO, all gone!. It's no good looking at the UN to keep peace, i worked for it, it is a gravy train now, useless, under Major general U'thant it was credible, not nw.
    Good post. Lebanon and Beirut (the Paris of the Middle East too - https://www.city-journal.org/article...be-paris-again). It bemuses me that Hamas were able to build such a comprehensive tunnel system and infiltrate so many official buildings all under the auspices of UNRWA; and what a failure 70+ years of that programme has been, probably mainly thanks to the religion of peace.

    I recall flights to Far East and Australia refuelled at Beirut, and then I remember armed soldiers boarding the planes and airlines finding an alternative.

    The behaviour of Hamas in parading their weapons in their circus displays surrounding the release of hostages is sickening and a clear message that they are undefeated, which is a claim to victory, intend that they intend to continue.

    Palestine deserves better. It is perhaps worthy of note that there are nearly 2million Palestinians living in Israel, forming around 20% of the population there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dug Out View Post
    Under the authority world peace, Gaza is a basket case along with being a bombed wasteland that is no good even to the Palestinians, they have got to be shown the way of peace and prosperity but they cannot see that beacon whilst Hamas/ Hezbula are ruling with AK47's, Trumpalong with other middle east nations are goiing to do it a different way new ideas, trillions of dollars......... jobs, peace, prosperity, this has got to be the way not rinse & repeat what is now. Unlike most here i have been to Gaza, many years ago, it was a typical middle east enclave, people that didn't want to kill you, markets, souke'good food, it could very well have been a riveria on the Med, along comes PLO, all gone!. It's no good looking at the UN to keep peace, i worked for it, it is a gravy train now, useless, under Major general U'thant it was credible, not nw.
    Caused in no small part by the barbarism of Israel, everything blockaded from food and water to medicine. The creation of the state of Israel is the root of all this. The Yanks wanted to give them a homeland, they should have given them Utah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magpie_mania View Post
    Under what authority can he remove the Palestinians, take control of Gaza and decide who can then live there?

    'Throughout time nations & people have had to be guided through to make them decent people,'

    In other words, ethnically cleanse the area.

    This man is imo very, very dangerous.
    Perhaps (as with the tariffs 'drama') he's presenting a 'nuclear' (not literally) solution in the hope that it'll get the ME nations to start pulling their fingers out and bang some heads together to reach a peaceful solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old_pie View Post
    In the days of the terrorism of the PLO and at the time of the troubles in Ireland I had envisaged a solution of moving the Irish to Palestine and the Palestinians to Ireland. Perhaps I should have run for office in the USA.
    Great idea, out of the box thinking.

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    Last night, Donald Trump was asked by a reporter about his stance on Israel's occupation of the West Bank.

    He said people "do like the idea" of Israel claiming sovereignty over the land there, "but we haven't taken a position on it yet."

    Who are these 'people'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old_pie View Post
    In the days of the terrorism of the PLO and at the time of the troubles in Ireland I had envisaged a solution of moving the Irish to Palestine and the Palestinians to Ireland. Perhaps I should have run for office in the USA.
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