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    Quote Originally Posted by InversneckieDob View Post
    NATO probably isn't an edgy enough concept for you I suppose.
    Nato would be nothing without the Americans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mondo_notion View Post
    ffs not this nonsense again?


    They didn't allow it but it is part of the reason all this is going on in Ukraine now, it's hybrid warfare. Welcome to 2025.


    They don't want war but it may still come to that with talk of troops on the ground on Ukranian soil. Too little too late, maybe.
    Biden knew the Russians were massing on the border and going to invade. If you he?d wanted to he could have stopped Russia. He allowed them to walk in like Obama did.

    So what did the UK do in regards to the 2 incidents again nothing.

    The Western Europeans are never going to put troops into Ukraine without knowing the US will back them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Basingstokered View Post

    So what did the UK do in regards to the 2 incidents again nothing.
    You keep going on about the West letting Russia invade. You gloss over the fact it's been going on years and Putin has very little to show for it. That is down to the help UK and other allies have provided. Like I said, it's the age of hybrid warfare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InversneckieDob View Post
    Oh, there's no doubt Europe/NATO have been asleep at the wheel when it comes to Putin's sojourns.
    NATO, I think, felt when the USSR fragmented that their work was done.

    We're at where we're at now and I don't think a two wrongs make a right approach is helpful.

    You'll have to enlighten me on the UK sanctioned attacks, I try to avoid conspiracy theory stuff.
    Conspiracy stuff just google novichock Salisbury and Plutonium Tea London unless that all snare up

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    Quote Originally Posted by mondo_notion View Post
    You keep going on about the West letting Russia invade. You gloss over the fact it's been going on years and Putin has very little to show for it. That is down to the help UK and other allies have provided. Like I said, it's the age of hybrid warfare.
    Three cheers for the UK and its allies allowing Russia to take bits of Ukraine and killing their citizens with CBRN materials.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Basingstokered View Post
    Three cheers for the UK and its allies allowing Russia to take bits of Ukraine and killing their citizens with CBRN materials.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jupiter View Post
    Nato would be nothing without the Americans.
    You?d feel sorry for the likes of Poland and having to prop up France, Germany, Netherlands, Spain and Italy all spending way below the minimum

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jupiter View Post
    Nato would be nothing without the Americans.
    The Beatles would've been nothing without Ringo.
    Edgy enough for you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Basingstokered View Post
    Conspiracy stuff just google novichock Salisbury and Plutonium Tea London unless that all snare up
    I'm aware of the incidents, but they were sanctioned by the UK?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mondo_notion View Post
    I meant is he seriously suggesting Russia didn?t carry out those attacks

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