O/T UKIP

[brassgnat]

Three of the new UKIP councillors are ex-Tory candidates.

It would be a sad irony if they have won in the ex-mining areas like Silverwood.
Ex miners voting in Thatcherite racist scabs

I voted Labour, without illusions, to try and keep UKIP out, locally and Green in the Euros.

Was there a 'Jewish' problem in Germany in the 1930's, or were they scapegoats for the economic and social crisis at the time?

[Multi2]

People moan about Rotherham being a shi*hole but still vote Labour every time.

I voted Conservative and UKIP

I'd rather cut my balls off and make meatballs than vote labour

[jolly_roger]

Vote Green?

Excellent manifesto is theirs

1. We don't like that
2. We don't like that either
3. We certainly don't like that
4. Not in my back yard
5. We are still opposed to that

etc etc etc

[fivetide]

I'll try to address your points by paragraph, ignoring the first two which just sound like tory spin without really saying anything.

Then you've missed the point entirely. Did Labour or did they not enjoy a decade of growth? Was that or was it not led by a huge rise in the service sector, during which a UK bank, RBS, one of the main leaders of the whole collapse became the biggest bank in the world.

Who let them spank A?49bn on ABM Amro in 2007 - was it the tories? No, it was Labour who then bailed them out to the tune of A?45bn!!!!

Here's a good bit of chat on Labour at the time and the role played by them, something you seem to be sadly overlooking:

"However, Darling cannot be separated from the decisions that led to the crisis. He was Labour spokesman on Treasury Affairs and then Chief Secretary to the Treasury across the period of 1992-1998. Alongside Gordon Brown, Tony Blair and Ed Balls, he was an architect of a?? if n

[Redshank]

Vote Green?

Excellent manifesto is theirs

1. We don't like that
2. We don't like that either
3. We certainly don't like that
4. Not in my back yard
5. We are still opposed to that

etc etc etc

I take it you voted Green then Jolly?

Sounds right up your street that manifesto!

[millmoorlane]

Rotherham - you should be careful what you wish for.

A protest vote is fine but giving control of a major council to a party with no record in being able to administer anything and, at best, flaky populist policies is a dangerous mix.

I suspect Rotherham will become a much nastier place to live with a far less competent administration than it had been for a while.

Labour deserve everything they get with how they've worked on a local level but giving UKIP control of a council in a traditionally socialist area is insane.

UKIP are the least socialist of all parties. Voting Tory would be more left wing.

Good luck.

[michaeldc]

I didn't miss the point entirely, I read those paragraphs, just didn't reply to them, that's what I meant by ignoring them (in the context of my reply, not completely).I had nothing really to add to what you wrote, you say that Labour enjoyed fantastic growth but seem to suggest they deserve no credit for it, yet they deserve blame for everything that went wrong, like when a private company makes a business decision and then fails like RBS did. If Labour opened us up to deregulation of the banks then the tories are yet fix these issues and if you believe that under the tories the world financial crisis wouldn't have happened then I'm afraid I simply don't agree. You quote... someone, saying what you think is a good bit of chat but to me at least, it doesn't ring true... maybe it's because whoever wrote it put the word 'toughera' in there, I'm not sure. Also, please stop talking down to me saying things 'sadly, you seem to be overlooking' - I don't even know what you're quoting, how can

[michaeldc]

Vote Green?

Excellent manifesto is theirs

1. We don't like that
2. We don't like that either
3. We certainly don't like that
4. Not in my back yard
5. We are still opposed to that

etc etc etc

Wow, someone who has absolutely no idea about this party at all and if you do you express it incredibly poorly.

Shockingly ignorant.

[Galant]

Greens - out of touch weirdos
Conservatives - good on economy - don't care about people.
Labour - dreadful on economy - only care about themselves and other scroungers (from here or abroad).
Liberals - laughing stock.
UKIP - one policy party - but one I agree with - control immigration so that all who live here (including foreigners already settled here)- have enough houses, schools, hospital beds and space on the road to travel around - it's simple - if we hade 3 million fewer people in the country then we would have better lifestyles than we have now - lets stop the next 3 million population rise from happening - I would vote for any party that promises that to be honest - only UKIP is offering that at the moment - although Tories re-thinking it.

[michaeldc]

Greens - out of touch weirdos
Conservatives - good on economy - don't care about people.
Labour - dreadful on economy - only care about themselves and other scroungers (from here or abroad).
Liberals - laughing stock.
UKIP - one policy party - but one I agree with - control immigration so that all who live here (including foreigners already settled here)- have enough houses, schools, hospital beds and space on the road to travel around - it's simple - if we hade 3 million fewer people in the country then we would have better lifestyles than we have now - lets stop the next 3 million population rise from happening - I would vote for any party that promises that to be honest - only UKIP is offering that at the moment - although Tories re-thinking it.

An even more ignorant post. Incredible viewpoint. So much wrong with it, I don't know where to begin.