So What Do You Think Of Mac Now?

[roger_ramjet]

Gardening leave usually only works when the employee hands in his notice and possesses a skillset that the employer wishes to protect. This is not usually the case with football managers.

[vanderlaans_header]

Sadly, VDLH, neither I nor you (I suspect) are privy to the notice provisions in SM's employment contact. If he was fired for breaches of any employment clause or condition then maybe gardening leave could have been imposed, but more likely it was an arranged termination where we wanted to minimise the compensation paid to SM. In this case enforcing gardening leave would have cost us more and opened us up to restraint of trade consequences. As it was a contractual issue SM would have had an obligation to mitigate his loss under contract (ie get a new job) and so us restraining him in the garden would also conflict with his duty to mitigate.

Employment and contract law is a complex area fraught with pitfalls. Sending him gardening would, IMHO, simply have been counter productive.

Yes sure, I understand the fundamentals of employment law. How about stringing him up by the balls then ??

[Rattea]

[quote="swaledale"]Honestly Rattee, I've read your opinions for months and they really stretch the idea that you understand football beyond credibility.
Patently, Maclaren was a better coach, and manager than Nigel.
For most of the time, he presided over an outstandingly attractive football team, that rose from awful mid table mediocrity to being the best team in the division.
Nationally, we got noticed.
Bryson under Maclaren was a revelation when he took over.
Thorne was a master stroke.
You may have noticed how the decline in attendances was reversed dramatically.
Yes it went wrong at the end. Derby failed to meet the raised expectations, that were so much higher than under Nigel in such a short time.
Without any shadow of a doubt, injuries were the main reason. We lost the spine of the team.
But overall, players under Maclaren were way better.
He wasn't even here for two seasons. During that time, Derby County'

[roger_ramjet]

Sadly, VDLH, neither I nor you (I suspect) are privy to the notice provisions in SM's employment contact. If he was fired for breaches of any employment clause or condition then maybe gardening leave could have been imposed, but more likely it was an arranged termination where we wanted to minimise the compensation paid to SM. In this case enforcing gardening leave would have cost us more and opened us up to restraint of trade consequences. As it was a contractual issue SM would have had an obligation to mitigate his loss under contract (ie get a new job) and so us restraining him in the garden would also conflict with his duty to mitigate.

Employment and contract law is a complex area fraught with pitfalls. Sending him gardening would, IMHO, simply have been counter productive.

Yes sure, I understand the fundamentals of employment law. How about stringing him up by th

[roger_ramjet]

[quote="Rattea"]Honestly Rattee, I've read your opinions for months and they really stretch the idea that you understand football beyond credibility.
Patently, Maclaren was a better coach, and manager than Nigel.
For most of the time, he presided over an outstandingly attractive football team, that rose from awful mid table mediocrity to being the best team in the division.
Nationally, we got noticed.
Bryson under Maclaren was a revelation when he took over.
Thorne was a master stroke.
You may have noticed how the decline in attendances was reversed dramatically.
Yes it went wrong at the end. Derby failed to meet the raised expectations, that were so much higher than under Nigel in such a short time.
Without any shadow of a doubt, injuries were the main reason. We lost the spine of the team.
But overall, players under Maclaren were way better.
He wasn't even here for

[triz]

Would anyone consider pRat to be a childish? Has all Swales
cherished and hard fought Credibility been hoisted by his own petard?

I merely responded to rat's caling and general insults, but then you'd know all about that tone of post wudln't you as you have previous in that department.[/quote]

Ah I guess that makes it ok then you definitely weren't being childish and your credibility is intact. Interesting theory from the perennial victim

[Rattea]

EXactly Triz but how would you ever see when he is so blinkered

[quote="roger_ramjet"]Honestly Rattee, I've read your opinions for months and they really stretch the idea that you understand football beyond credibility.
Patently, Maclaren was a better coach, and manager than Nigel.
For most of the time, he presided over an outstandingly attractive football team, that rose from awful mid table mediocrity to being the best team in the division.
Nationally, we got noticed.
Bryson under Maclaren was a revelation when he took over.
Thorne was a master stroke.
You may have noticed how the decline in attendances was reversed dramatically.
Yes it went wrong at the end. Derby failed to meet the raised expectations, that were so much higher than under Nigel in such a short time.
Without any shadow of a doubt, injuries were the mai

[ellafella]

...I would expect people to recognise what I had done and think I was a ****er.

But we do Triz. [/quote]
You cut me hella deep Ella, and I always thought you were a lovely fella. Oh wella[/quote]

Surely Triz, it was worth a "like"

[AdiSalisbury]

Good luck to him.

He's been here twice as a coach, 1st time as the best team in my living memory, and the 2nd time giving the most exciting football I've seen since the last time he was here. Messed it up in the end, but mostly pleasant memories.

Wish him well but... Paul Clements Barmy Army!

[roger_ramjet]

[quote="Rattea"]EXactly Triz but how would you ever see when he is so blinkered

[quote="roger_ramjet"]Honestly Rattee, I've read your opinions for months and they really stretch the idea that you understand football beyond credibility.
Patently, Maclaren was a better coach, and manager than Nigel.
For most of the time, he presided over an outstandingly attractive football team, that rose from awful mid table mediocrity to being the best team in the division.
Nationally, we got noticed.
Bryson under Maclaren was a revelation when he took over.
Thorne was a master stroke.
You may have noticed how the decline in attendances was reversed dramatically.
Yes it went wrong at the end. Derby failed to meet the raised expectations, that were so much higher than under Nigel in such a short time.
Without