Rams in for in-form Scottish striker

[RamBamFan]

Spend the money on a player that will definitely do something. Not a reserve.

And how do you establish that the player you are spending money on will 'do something'? Buy him and throw them straight into the squad? That seems a risky strategy to me.

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Spend it on a first teamer? We threw Johnson, Butterfield etc. straight into the squad? A riskier strategy would be spending however much it costs on a player that could very well never play a game for us.

[KingCharlieGeorge]

I'll go with Derby and PC's judgement over uninformed opinion.

[triz]

I'll oppose rambams pov and say a mere 100 thousand is a fair risk to take on a player (considering my assumption of his cost is as relevant as rambams made up one)

[swaledale]

That's what I'm assuming. The amount of interest will mean Hibs will get pound signs in their eyes.

Where would I get gems from? England. Where the standard is undebatable. There's plenty of talent in league one which is only a step below the Championship and any of the teams in there would challenge Celtic.

AnagRam and Anywho, say we signed him this summer, what would you do with him?

Any league one team would challenge celtic?? Thats another laughable statement.

What has the standard of the league got to do with a players ability? If a player has it then its irrelevant.

How is buying a player who may develop into a gem not relevant just because we are challenging for promotion? The development and acquisition of young players is ongoing process and is publicly part of the clubs long term strategy, there are budgets for first team players and budgets for development players we are not about short termism, we are abou

[RamBamFan]

Crazy how Derby fans we realise we have a bit of money and think we should just spunk it on whatever might work.

Buying this lad would not make no sense for his career or for us. As I keep saying, he won't get into the first team so he'll just be floundering around in the reserves. No good for either party. Especially when every player in the under 21s (off the top of my head) was free. But hey, Derby fans think that we should just waste money for the hell of it because we have a bit.

By all means take risks when signing players, but how can you judge a player that is playing in a paltry league? Of course there are examples such as Andre Gray, Jamie Vardy etc. but when they were signed the teams that signed them could afford to take risks. If you lot want to campaign to sign this lad, stick him up front ahead of a (allegedly) £10 million striker then you can go right ahead. It's not going to happen.

Anyway, I think this is just paper talk anyway.

[AnagRam]

I fear you're wasting your time Swale, RamBam is nothing if not stubborn. Despite having almost certainly never seen the lad play and dreaming up estimates of his cost that vary from £100k to £1,000,000 he's made his mind up...'ain't no stoppin' him now'. ;-)

[RamBamFan]

I fear you're wasting your time Swale, RamBam is nothing if not stubborn. Despite having almost certainly never seen the lad play and dreaming up estimates of his cost that vary from £100k to £1,000,000 he's made his mind up...'ain't no stoppin' him now'. ;-)

You could say stubborn... You could also say 'has made some very valid points but as usual is ridiculed because whenever someone says something negative on this board it's the same boring twerps that criticise'.

If it makes you happy we can erase everything I've said and use this response: Sign him. We could get him on a free, play him up front and he'll be World Player of the Year in no time. 50 goals a season, doesn't leave because he's too loyal and Paul Clement is knighted after guiding Derby to their fifth Champions League in a row.

Meanwhile the 'anti-debate brigade' of Derby County Mad are given degrees in being pure geniuses.

[AnagRam]

Oh don't go off on one again RamBam. There's no 'anti-debate brigade' any more than it's just a case of you not liking to be challenged. As I've said before, you may well be right and it may be too big a risk. My point is, I trust the scouts, the owner and Clem more than you on the basis that, I doubt you've seen Cummings play and you seem unsure whether he's likely to fetch £1,000,000 or £100,000 which is, you have to admit, one hell of a difference. No offence meant but there are times when you are stubborn and others when, to me at least, you make perfect sense. Same with most people I guess. No intention to 'ridicule' you, that penultimate comment was just a bit of banter.

[swaledale]

I thought a debate was being had and posters were pointing out the holes in your logic, how is not agreeing with a poster or pointing out the inconsistencies in a point of view "anti debate"?

Sure you may not agree with the responses (its a free country), but the posters on here have not ridiculed you just questioned some of your strange statements, some of which are below:

A player in the scottish championship cannot be any good

Why spend a million on a player who wont be near the first team

Any league 1 team could challenge Celtic

All U21 Players have been obtained free

No point in spending money on a player just to sit in the reserves

Buying the player will mean that potentially a better player wont be bought

To much money at £1 million, £900,000 despite no price being mentioned


Whilst some of the above may be an opinion, all of them plus some other comments are certainly not backed up by the facts as we know them.

The meaning of debate is that argume

[triz]

We are boring twerps though, you've just been really gracious on not calling me on it Swale.