Ismael gets his man!

[Arblasterfromthepast]

I suspect West Brom will be funding the deal with their parachute money , you know the money that is supposed to subsidise the wages after failing in the premier league , I genuinely hope they go up because of the Barnsley connection but while ever these parachute payments are being handed out then the championship is not a level playing field .

Yes agreed, the parachute payments are very unfair for that reason.

[Romared]

Good luck to him ,

[animallittle3]

There’s something really fishy about all this. In the summer, Dike was being linked with many clubs including Man United. He was being talked about as a real talent worth in excess of £20M. Yet he returned to Orlando and no other club signed him, which I find extremely odd. So whilst he’s been back in Orlando, has he been putting in outstanding performances and ripping that particular league apart? It’s very odd that only now has he been signed by another club, 6 months on from his spell at Barnsley.
There were very good reasons to believe that we could sign Dike when he first arrived at Barnsley. He came, as a signing that was completely out of the blue and left field. He didn’t appear to have been on the radar of any of our fans. Dike was an unknown quantity when the loan deal was signed. He didn’t appear to have been on the radar or wishlist of any other clubs. So it was possible that we’d got him, under the radar, and that potentially we’d managed to stitch up a contract that would give us the opportunity to buy him, since he appeared to be a relatively unknown quantity. Additionally, Dane also stated a number of times that the opportunity was there to sign him with a transfer fee linked to performances, but no matter how good a performer Dike turned out to be, there was an opportunity to sign him. I believe Dane, I believe he’s honest (which is probably part of the reason he chose to leave). The only fly in the ointment that I could see was that if Dike’s loan contract was based on performances, and he scored a shedload of goals, then the transfer fee might increase substantially, and we may not afford him. However, I still understood from what Dane said, that we had this covered.
So me, Nudge and Dane may have been ‘pillocked’ as you say Animal. I may also be a Luna Lovegood lol. But I suspect it’s probable that we’ve all been taken for a ride. The truth is probably still there with Dane, and we’ll probably never find out what it is. Dane chose to leave, in my opinion, and that’s why he didn’t get a thank you statement from the club. And we can only surmise he reasons for leaving.
But I come back to, and with all due respect to West Brom, why has Dike chosen to join them? Hasn’t he had any other interest shown in him? How have West Brom afforded to pay £15M for him or is the fee largely dependent on them reaching the premier league? Supposedly West Brom were struggling for money at the start of the season (maybe they’ve sold Johnstone?). Why has it taken until now for someone to buy him? Was there something in the loan contract to prevent his sale after a period of time had passed since his return? One thing’s for sure, we should know Dike’s true worth at the end of the season.
Just for SB, Maybe Conway sent Dike back because he already had a ready made replacement for him in Obbi. Tha can’t be too careful signing people wi bad backs.

As soon as Dike started scoring at the rate he did and we started to win the games we did you just knew he wasn't ever going to sign for us unless we made it to the PL .

Something around our normal budget is a million quid .

Did anybody really think we were going to get him for that kind of money ?

Really .

[Arblasterfromthepast]

As soon as Dike started scoring at the rate he did and we started to win the games we did you just knew he wasn't ever going to sign for us unless we made it to the PL .

Something around our normal budget is a million quid .

Did anybody really think we were going to get him for that kind of money ?

Really .

I don't know what the contract said Animal. With a performance related payment, £1m no, but £3m yes maybe. No one else appeared to have been queueing up to pay £3m for Dike when we signed him, and that's the point.
I suspect Dane said to Conway at the end of the season, we can get him for £3m, arbitrary figure, and Conway said 'the business model only allows for max transfer fees of £1.5m. I can get 10 players for £3m Dane and make profit on them all'. Dane sees the light and decides to leave.

[Young_Nudger]

As soon as Dike started scoring at the rate he did and we started to win the games we did you just knew he wasn't ever going to sign for us unless we made it to the PL .

Something around our normal budget is a million quid .

Did anybody really think we were going to get him for that kind of money ?

Really .

Yes !!!
Because Dane Murphy said we were going to sign him if he was successful.
If you don’t believe that - then you are either calling Dane a liar - or - something went wrong within the contract.
Which is it ???
Because neither option relates to the price agreed for Dike.

The fairy story about him costing too much has been invented by some supporters.
There is no evidence (information) whatsoever to support that.
Stick to the facts of what was said by the club.

When the facts change - I change my mind.

What we see on the field is just the tip of the iceberg.
What happens behind the scenes greatly influences what we subsequently end up seeing on the field.
Listening to what is being said - and what is not said - goes along way in trying to better understand what we eventually see on the field.

I believe that the Dike debacle may not have resulted in Dane leaving the club - but after listening to what he said on the Dike loan with a view to a permanent deal - and then witnessing Dike going back to Orlando - then it wouldn’t surprise me to hear that the relationship between Dane and the directors were soured because of what happened with Dike.

And if I were a director I would certainly be mightily peeeed off.
If Dane was telling the truth - which I believe he was - and Dike could have been bought within budget - say for example £3m.
Then the directors have just missed out on a player being sold for £15 million.
That is to say - the owners are here to make money and the biggest fish they have landed so far has just slipped back into the water.

And unbeknown to the directors during last summer - Dike going back to Orlando could also contribute greatly to Barnsley being relegated.
Which is of course more money lost for the directors.

[animallittle3]

Bloody Pat Cryne lied to thi in 2006 with his box office signings unless tha counts Grant McCann !!!

He lied to thi when he told a forum they didn't know how good John Stones was when he was initially sold for £1.9m to Everton .

Chien Lee told thi we'd be stronger this season and tha believed that n all .

Even the Tommy Taylor money in the 50's was probably pocketed by Joe Richards , a world record fee because it certainly wasn't spent on the ground or team back then and it was impossible to have debts of £30k in the 50's with players on ten quid a week .

Point is there's no integrity in football and there certainly won't be any integrity when a young American kid starts scoring goals for fun and his club suddenly realise he's worth 15 times more than they realised .

What planet are you on ?

Market forces blow away verbal agreements or any other agreement .

He was their player , possession is nine tenths of the law .

[Arblasterfromthepast]

Bloody Pat Cryne lied to thi in 2006 with his box office signings unless tha counts Grant McCann !!!

He lied to thi when he told a forum they didn't know how good John Stones was when he was initially sold for £1.9m to Everton .

Chien Lee told thi we'd be stronger this season and tha believed that n all .

Even the Tommy Taylor money in the 50's was probably pocketed by Joe Richards , a world record fee because it certainly wasn't spent on the ground or team back then and it was impossible to have debts of £30k in the 50's with players on ten quid a week .

Point is there's no integrity in football and there certainly won't be any integrity when a young American kid starts scoring goals for fun and his club suddenly realise he's worth 15 times more than they realised .

What planet are you on ?

Market forces blow away verbal agreements or any other agreement .

He was their player , possession is nine tenths of the law .

I'm on planet earth Animal. I stick with my points already made; there were good reasons we might have had a deal for Dike.

I have no problem with the owners taking 750k out of the club either to pay for it. It's just an accounting issue. However, there are many other reasons for my originally 'undecided' position to change to against the owners, some of which Piggy has highlighted. However, the Dike saga has more to it than we have so far been told. End of the day, it's over because we didn't get him, but I suspect other information will present itself eventually.

[POGGYWELL]

Nothings changed here as far as we BFC are concerned let’s remember our double Wembley season when we had some very good loans making up that squad. AshleyFletcher, Josh Brownhill, Ivan Tony & Lloyd Isgrove.

Out of these which one did we eventually sign.

Then moving fairly quickly on we lose Conor Hourihane, Mark Roberts, Alfie Mawson and Josh Scowen. All this coupled with our promotion under Stendal then the heart is wripped out of the side at the start of the new Championship season.

Over the years the list is endless so as for DK going to West Brom a club still spending Premiership money then I find it very difficult to get exited about particularly with all the other crap currently going on in Grove Street.

On a personnel note myself and my grandson were thrown out of the West Stand this season due to nothing but internal mismanagement which really did get me exited. The straw that broke the camels back for me this one. Never again will I go near Grove Street until this lot are long gone and all this after being a regular for almost 60 years starting with a home win against Coventry City in 1962.

I will of course continue to support our club from the comfortable armchairs available.

Oakwell Review becomes Grove Street well I ask ya !

Our club is hemorrhaging togetherness.

[Arblasterfromthepast]

I'm on planet earth Animal. I stick with my points already made; there were good reasons we might have had a deal for Dike.

I have no problem with the owners taking 750k out of the club either to pay for it. It's just an accounting issue. However, there are many other reasons for my originally 'undecided' position to change to against the owners, some of which Piggy has highlighted. However, the Dike saga has more to it than we have so far been told. End of the day, it's over because we didn't get him, but I suspect other information will present itself eventually.

Sorry, Poggy.

[GRASS SOD]

Ismail will get sacked at end of season if not before