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Thread: Do we need creators or goal scorers ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    Vinny does not have time to prevaricate, he needs to decide on his best eleven playing the way he wants too and get them all singing from the same hymn sheet and quick.

    The wing backs are getting in the way of the wide midfield players and that needs sorting.
    I refer back to Vinni's initial team talk. He said it would take three months for the players to understand how he wanted them to play, so I think he's expecting them to be getting in each other's way occasionally at this stage of the season. Like I said earlier, it took the City players a season to adapt to Pep' methods, it may well be next season before we're firing on all cylinders. Or maybe we never will under Vinni, it's football, who knows ?

    One thing is for certain, it's ludicrous to be moaning, carping and criticising the manager just 4 games into the season, when he's virtually had to start from scratch, we've only lost one, and that we could have won easily enough, and we're in the top half of the league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    I refer back to Vinni's initial team talk. He said it would take three months for the players to understand how he wanted them to play, so I think he's expecting them to be getting in each other's way occasionally at this stage of the season. Like I said earlier, it took the City players a season to adapt to Pep' methods, it may well be next season before we're firing on all cylinders. Or maybe we never will under Vinni, it's football, who knows ?

    One thing is for certain, it's ludicrous to be moaning, carping and criticising the manager just 4 games into the season, when he's virtually had to start from scratch, we've only lost one, and that we could have won easily enough, and we're in the top half of the league.
    sinkov, sorry, we aren't in the top half of the league any more, in fact, we are only two points ahead of 22nd place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersub6 View Post
    sinkov, sorry, we aren't in the top half of the league any more, in fact, we are only two points ahead of 22nd place.
    Sorry Sub, as always you are correct, my excuse is that some of Wednesday's game's were still in progress when I began the post, and so we were at that point still in the top half. Nevertheless, I refuse to be down-hearted, two points off 22nd place we may be, we're also just two points off a play-off spot with 42 games to go.

    The really good news is that we're neck and neck with Mr Hoofball's 15/16 Championship team, which also had five points from the first four games. And as they went on to win the League as top scorers, with a tactically inept dinosaur in charge, Mr K will have no difficulty replicating that feat, will he ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    Sorry Sub, as always you are correct, my excuse is that some of Wednesday's game's were still in progress when I began the post, and so we were at that point still in the top half. Nevertheless, I refuse to be down-hearted, two points off 22nd place we may be, we're also just two points off a play-off spot with 42 games to go.

    The really good news is that we're neck and neck with Mr Hoofball's 15/16 Championship team, which also had five points from the first four games. And as they went on to win the League as top scorers, with a tactically inept dinosaur in charge, Mr K will have no difficulty replicating that feat, will he ?
    Me and thee have done this one to death on many previous occasions mon ami. I think we should now leave Dyche in the past and embrace a whole new culture.

    If Kompany can get this new look team anywhere near the team that won the Championship in 2015/16, I will truly be as happy as a pig in $hit. Fingers crossed eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    Sorry Sub, as always you are correct, my excuse is that some of Wednesday's game's were still in progress when I began the post, and so we were at that point still in the top half. Nevertheless, I refuse to be down-hearted, two points off 22nd place we may be, we're also just two points off a play-off spot with 42 games to go.

    The really good news is that we're neck and neck with Mr Hoofball's 15/16 Championship team, which also had five points from the first four games. And as they went on to win the League as top scorers, with a tactically inept dinosaur in charge, Mr K will have no difficulty replicating that feat, will he ?
    sinkov, I am with you on this but just keeping things correct in my musician's look on life where you have only one chance to get it right otherwise Joe Public says it's rubbish ---righly so. Just giving food for thought, however, we do need to start scoring when we are on top, I don't like playing catch up when we have so much possession, particularly when it is obvious that teams have us well sussed at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    Me and thee have done this one to death on many previous occasions mon ami. I think we should now leave Dyche in the past and embrace a whole new culture.
    Very well BT, I shall desist, until some other poster brings the comparison up again, in which case I reserve the right to reply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    Final ball. Fine margins. Work in Progress.

    From where did I hear this before?

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    From the best manager we've ever had, obviously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    From the best manager we've ever had, obviously.
    Sinkov, I can't remember Harry Potts quoting fine margins, work in progress, but there again it is a long time since he was the best manager Burnley FC have every had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vintage Claret View Post
    Sinkov, I can't remember Harry Potts quoting fine margins, work in progress, but there again it is a long time since he was the best manager Burnley FC have every had.
    Harry, God bless him, took us from 6th in D1 to 1st in D1. Credit to him for that, but it was a level playing field financially, and we had arguably the best scouting and youth development set up in the country. Sean took us from midtable in the Championship into the PL and Europe, operating under enormous financial constraints and without any functioning youth development programme to assist him.

    I'm not even convinced that Klopp or Pep could have done what Dyche did, never mind Harry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    Harry, God bless him, took us from 6th in D1 to 1st in D1. Credit to him for that, but it was a level playing field financially, and we had arguably the best scouting and youth development set up in the country. Sean took us from midtable in the Championship into the PL and Europe, operating under enormous financial constraints and without any functioning youth development programme to assist him.

    I'm not even convinced that Klopp or Pep could have done what Dyche did, never mind Harry.
    I need to point out that Harry took us into the "European Cup" which is now the champions league, Sean never did scale that high. While Sean had Garlick to contend with financial hardship. poor old Harry had to contend with Bob Lord.

    I am not sure who had the biggest burden to be honest. However I don't think Sean would have survived nine year under Bob Lord.

    In comparison Harry did inherit a good squad of players assembled by Allan Brown whereas the one inherited by Sean from Eddie Howe was not as good.

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