Stephen flynn

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You can't have it both ways. If their actions had no effect on the passage of the virus why are they guilty of causing deaths? I thought that the argument was that covid lockdowns were to save lives. If they had no effect why did these policies kill people? Same question applies to SNP policies.

They completely closed the NHS, the NHS is still partly closed. People didn't feel they could go to their GPs with symptoms - some were 'just' ill, some died. Cancer review appointments cancelled or not even permitted; people with chronic conditions not reviewed for three years and still not reviewed. People with acute conditions left to suffer and, in extreme cases, die. People are still not able to see their GPs without jumping through hoops first - how many will just not bother?

You couldn't get a dentist appointment, I can't remember the last time I saw my dentist and now have two fillings missing - but hey, I managed to book an appointent for next Thursday - two months ago. The Tories are closing the NHS down by stealth, I have a relative who's a dentist and who says most surgeries are refusing NHS patients as they turn toward private only.

All because of a knee jerk reaction to a virus that was supposed to be capable of wiping out around a quarter of the population but didn't cause any more hassle than a flu epedimic or a bout of a winter sickness bug that was labelled a pandemic. The pandemic strategy that had been in place for years completely ignored because people saw opportunity to profit from it. As RRoS would say - Sweden got it right.

Counting any death where the deceased had tested positive for Covid (using some very dubious testing methods) in the preceeding 28 days regardless of whether they showed symptoms of Covid or not just to try to get numbers up and justify the actions taken is a scandal of epic proportions. Refusing relatives the right to visit terminally ill loved ones, who would have died in the same time frame anyway, then declaring they died of Covid is also a scandal of epic proportions. Then of course they couldn't even give them decent funerals.

And don't even start me on the 'stressed' NHS when I know for a fact that Ninewells Hospital for example was empty and nurses and doctors spent their days making TikTok videos. Major exaggeration but you get the point. The authorities had to intervene and tell them to stop doing the videos.

The SNP are as culpable as the Tories by the way and I'm not saying they're not.

I'll leave RRoS to carry this on to the vaccination scandal as I'm not too certain on that one just yet.

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Because folk never got treatment on time, people weren't diagnosed, people never went and were discouraged from going to hospital with symptoms.

The pandemic was over April 2020, pandemic policy will continue to kill people for years to come as will injecting those who needed no injection.

So many celebrity fascists now running for cover, the plumber guy ( Poundland rod Stewart) being one of the main ones.

****ers one and all

You typed these whilst I was typing my rant. Great minds etc.

[Returnofrros]

They completely closed the NHS, the NHS is still partly closed. People didn't feel they could go to their GPs with symptoms - some were 'just' ill, some died. Cancer review appointments cancelled or not even permitted; people with chronic conditions not reviewed for three years and still not reviewed. People with acute conditions left to suffer and, in extreme cases, die. People are still not able to see their GPs without jumping through hoops first - how many will just not bother?

You couldn't get a dentist appointment, I can't remember the last time I saw my dentist and now have two fillings missing - but hey, I managed to book an appointent for next Thursday - two months ago. The Tories are closing the NHS down by stealth, I have a relative who's a dentist and who says most surgeries are refusing NHS patients as they turn toward private only.

All because of a knee jerk reaction to a virus that was supposed to be capable of wiping out around a quarter of the population but didn't cause any more hassle than a flu epedimic or a bout of a winter sickness bug that was labelled a pandemic. The pandemic strategy that had been in place for years completely ignored because people saw opportunity to profit from it. As RRoS would say - Sweden got it right.

Counting any death where the deceased had tested positive for Covid (using some very dubious testing methods) in the preceeding 28 days regardless of whether they showed symptoms of Covid or not just to try to get numbers up and justify the actions taken is a scandal of epic proportions. Refusing relatives the right to visit terminally ill loved ones, who would have died in the same time frame anyway, then declaring they died of Covid is also a scandal of epic proportions. Then of course they couldn't even give them decent funerals.

And don't even start me on the 'stressed' NHS when I know for a fact that Ninewells Hospital for example was empty and nurses and doctors spent their days making TikTok videos. Major exaggeration but you get the point. The authorities had to intervene and tell them to stop doing the videos.

The SNP are as culpable as the Tories by the way and I'm not saying they're not.

I'll leave RRoS to carry this on to the vaccination scandal as I'm not too certain on that one just yet.

It's why I keep going on about that unless the public wake up to the fact they were conned it will happen again.

This country above all others should value their freedom we gave it all away for two years plus.

I will hate sturgeon Hancock whitty Johnson Gove leitch to my dying day, god knows how I wud feel if I lost someone during that period.

Ester ****ing ranzthen said nobody shud get medical help for cancer heart attack etc if they weren't vaccinated 🫣🫣🫣

That **** Morgan calling everyone a granny killer who wanted their freedom whilst the Scottish and UK Govts emptied hospitals into care homes.

5 inches AFF classroom doors, masks in schools, one way systems in supermarkets, nudge units, new variants, sit Doon in pub don't stand up, masks in cars, 15 weeks without leaving the house, over 150,000 children never went back to school, masks oh god masks, who can ever forget the masks

A terrified population who took it up the jacksey

And now they moan about inflation.

I'll always be grateful you and to a lesser extent Islay cud see what I cud see from early doors.........and wee mention to offshore dab who also saw thru the crap on dab mad

Never forget what they did, never forgive.

[Returnofrros]

The old adage it's far easier to fool people than for people to admit they were fooled.

......,.....a wee bit like those who still believe in Linda 😉

Jaw jaw Jag Jag.

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It's why I keep going on about that unless the public wake up to the fact they were conned it will happen again.

This country above all others should value their freedom we gave it all away for two years plus.

I will hate sturgeon Hancock whitty Johnson Gove leitch to my dying day, god knows how I wud feel if I lost someone during that period.

Ester ****ing ranzthen said nobody shud get medical help for cancer heart attack etc if they weren't vaccinated ������

That **** Morgan calling everyone a granny killer who wanted their freedom whilst the Scottish and UK Govts emptied hospitals into care homes.

5 inches AFF classroom doors, masks in schools, one way systems in supermarkets, nudge units, new variants, sit Doon in pub don't stand up, masks in cars, 15 weeks without leaving the house, over 150,000 children never went back to school, masks oh god masks, who can ever forget the masks

A terrified population who took it up the jacksey

And now they moan about inflation.

I'll always be grateful you and to a lesser extent Islay cud see what I cud see from early doors.........and wee mention to offshore dab who also saw thru the crap on dab mad

Never forget what they did, never forgive.

Despite clear and compelling evidence that the face masks had the square root of **** effect governments still haven't apologised for making the gullible wear them in Tesco. Meanwhile some people still wear them when driving alone in their own cars. Fear wins.

[noahrab]

I've nothing against any English person. No idea where you get that idea from. Unless you've been listening to the troll again?

Leave the feeding to me.

Says the self confessed racist.

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Like a bad penny.

I take it the bad penny can say where I said I was a racist. For the record, and for the benefit of the sane among us, I'm anything but.

[BCram]

They completely closed the NHS, the NHS is still partly closed. People didn't feel they could go to their GPs with symptoms - some were 'just' ill, some died. Cancer review appointments cancelled or not even permitted; people with chronic conditions not reviewed for three years and still not reviewed. People with acute conditions left to suffer and, in extreme cases, die. People are still not able to see their GPs without jumping through hoops first - how many will just not bother?

You couldn't get a dentist appointment, I can't remember the last time I saw my dentist and now have two fillings missing - but hey, I managed to book an appointent for next Thursday - two months ago. The Tories are closing the NHS down by stealth, I have a relative who's a dentist and who says most surgeries are refusing NHS patients as they turn toward private only.

All because of a knee jerk reaction to a virus that was supposed to be capable of wiping out around a quarter of the population but didn't cause any more hassle than a flu epedimic or a bout of a winter sickness bug that was labelled a pandemic. The pandemic strategy that had been in place for years completely ignored because people saw opportunity to profit from it. As RRoS would say - Sweden got it right.

Counting any death where the deceased had tested positive for Covid (using some very dubious testing methods) in the preceeding 28 days regardless of whether they showed symptoms of Covid or not just to try to get numbers up and justify the actions taken is a scandal of epic proportions. Refusing relatives the right to visit terminally ill loved ones, who would have died in the same time frame anyway, then declaring they died of Covid is also a scandal of epic proportions. Then of course they couldn't even give them decent funerals.

And don't even start me on the 'stressed' NHS when I know for a fact that Ninewells Hospital for example was empty and nurses and doctors spent their days making TikTok videos. Major exaggeration but you get the point. The authorities had to intervene and tell them to stop doing the videos.

The SNP are as culpable as the Tories by the way and I'm not saying they're not.

I'll leave RRoS to carry this on to the vaccination scandal as I'm not too certain on that one just yet.

I think it was the scientists who got it wrong.

[noahrab]

Like a bad penny.

I take it the bad penny can say where I said I was a racist. For the record, and for the benefit of the sane among us, I'm anything but.

You might have forgotten..conveniently.

I haven’t.

[islaydarkblue]

They're politicians, they lie to suit their own agendas without a concern for people's health. All parties do it and whilst you're probably right that the SNP are gerrymandering on this it's wrong to make out that they're the only party guilty of this.

I know that the SNP are guilty of covering things up to suit their own agenda.
My brother would not have died at the age of 56 from what can only be described as an NHS ticking time bomb if the results on an investigation published in 2007 had not been covered up by the Labour Government at Westminster and the SNP Government at Holyrood.