Saints slipping Halo apparently.

[Billyni]

So when I said 3 years or so ago he was killing the players I got scorned on When I said his playing style is not sustainable I got
When I said we can't finish a season out we get burnt out and the only reason we got promoted was because of the COVID timing and the weeks off I got So now after all that time I have to read what i said all along

And the winning lottery numbers are ?????? bonus ball ?

[WTF11]

Find it hard to buy into the theory that Radz and Orta were naive.
They are high flying business men with 50 years experience between them.
Replace naive with, at the very best, stupid. Although there are many other words of description available.

Radrizzani isn't, and never was, a successful football club owner (and it looks like his Italian adventure us having "issues", how sad), he is a very rich man (by comparison w8th thee and me) who has made his money by establishing a successful sports broadcasting rights brokerage. Orta is a three times failed attempt at being someone who can identify suitable talent to fill gaps and supply improved performance to th teams he has worked with. Again, his new employers appear to be discovering just how sh1te he is at that.

Neither are "high flying" in the areas necessary for successful club ownership/management.

[WTF11]

Another hmmm.
2nd paragraph of wtf post no.22 may not be far of the mark.

It's fine. Bates isn't a popular figure with Leeds supporters (me included), for a great many disservices he inflicted on the club, but had he not dine what he did, there wouldn't have been a club for him to exploit.

Which would be preferable, no Bates, or no LUFC? It's simply not possible to wish for the eradication of one without the other no longer existing. Not a saviour, more a necessary evil.

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

We will never know as impossible to say what would have actually happened but we would have survived in some form or other.

Not sure which I dislike the most that Bates was owner and Chairman or that Colin was manager.

A dark dark period.

[WTF11]

We will never know as impossible to say what would have actually happened but we would have survived in some form or other.

Not sure which I dislike the most that Bates was owner and Chairman or that Colin was manager.

A dark dark period.

Yes we do (know what would have actually happened). Both the FA and HMRC were determined to see LUFC obliterated, and attempted over three years after Bates took ownership of LUFC to contest the process of transfer of ownership, and sought to impose payment conditions
of outstanding debt that would, if successful have bankrupted the legal entity that was LUFC. Bates fought that attempt and saw both the FA & HMRC abandon their attempts to impose sanctions and the resulting insolvency of the club which after previous events would have led to the obliteration of LUFC.

They wanted to see the back of LUFC, and Bates prevented that, of that there is unequivocal evidence, try and find an alternative conclusion.

Saviour? No. As I said earlier, necessary evil? You betcha.(The enemy of my enemy is my friend (for a time))

Yes, I'm replying to YOU.

[ozleeds]

And the winning lottery numbers are ?????? bonus ball ?

Won the lotto last week spent 43 bucks and got 9 back I call that a win

[Billyni]

Radrizzani isn't, and never was, a successful football club owner (and it looks like his Italian adventure us having "issues", how sad), he is a very rich man (by comparison w8th thee and me) who has made his money by establishing a successful sports broadcasting rights brokerage. Orta is a three times failed attempt at being someone who can identify suitable talent to fill gaps and supply improved performance to th teams he has worked with. Again, his new employers appear to be discovering just how sh1te he is at that.

Neither are "high flying" in the areas necessary for successful club ownership/management.

You don't need a degree in any 'area' to know if your being taken for a ride.

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

Yes we do (know what would have actually happened). Both the FA and HMRC were determined to see LUFC obliterated, and attempted over three years after Bates took ownership of LUFC to contest the process of transfer of ownership, and sought to impose payment conditions
of outstanding debt that would, if successful have bankrupted the legal entity that was LUFC. Bates fought that attempt and saw both the FA & HMRC abandon their attempts to impose sanctions and the resulting insolvency of the club which after previous events would have led to the obliteration of LUFC.

They wanted to see the back of LUFC, and Bates prevented that, of that there is unequivocal evidence, try and find an alternative conclusion.

Saviour? No. As I said earlier, necessary evil? You betcha.(The enemy of my enemy is my friend (for a time))

Yes, I'm replying to YOU.

Suggest you read the accounts and information from the time - if you are talking about the administration when Bates was in control - there were other offers but the way Bates had structured the club at the time meant there was no chance of it being sold to anyone else - lots of very good articles at the time which did a lot of background digging.

The fall from grace from the Prem he had has Chelsea cash but there were others in the background.

As such, you just don’t know but you did say he saves the club which I am pretty sure is a stretch at best.

A lot of what he did took years to unwind.

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

Fair to say I am not sure we will ever agree on that one especially the admin and L1 as there were other people in the background.

Another reason to be grateful the 49ers are now in charge.

[WTF11]

You don't need a degree in any 'area' to know if your being taken for a ride.

Shows how naive and gullible Radrizzani was, n'est pas?