O/T:- Swansea

[Notts78]

You misunderstand what I meant. Yes he left us in a good league position but we were in a slump prior to his departure.

A slump? He won 2 out of 3 games over the festive period, keeping 2 clean sheets. Losing his last game, when I suspect he knew he would be off.
I still find it ironic that a lot of posters on here would have taken a mid table finish before a ball was kicked and those same posters appear to be saying that LW somehow under achieved.
LW like any manager had flaws.. clearly. However, he had some real strengths that many of us admired.

[maddogslater]

Yep, some slump that, 3 0, 5 0, and 2 4
W 2 D 0 L 1 , 10 F 4 A Pts 6. Could do with one of them slumps now. 😄

[SmiffyPie]

Yep, some slump that, 3 0, 5 0, and 2 4
W 2 D 0 L 1 , 10 F 4 A Pts 6. Could do with one of them slumps now. ��

OK I'll play your game. The last 15 games (all comps) W4. D2. L9. The last 9 (league) W2. D2. L5.
Now if I have my results wrong you can correct me?

[TSANHO]

He didn’t want us anymore, stop grovelling and support Maynard.

If you dont want to hear support for Luke Williams then stay off a very long thread which is clearly going to be about him pal.

[Notts78]

OK I'll play your game. The last 15 games (all comps) W4. D2. L9. The last 9 (league) W2. D2. L5.
Now if I have my results wrong you can correct me?

That has a direct correlation to one of our best players being out injured. When you have a threadbare squad an injury or 2 to key players was always going to be detrimental.
Clubs like Stockport, Mansfield and Wrexham have also had key injuries but they have damn good squads, which has meant they can absorb those injuries. We don’t. Palmer is irreplaceable.
With the 10th best budget in the division LW had us punching above where in theory we should be.
Throughout this thread some have said LW subs weakened the side… that’s because the squad players are significantly weaker than our best 11. That is still the case.

[SmiffyPie]

That has a direct correlation to one of our best players being out injured. When you have a threadbare squad an injury or 2 to key players was always going to be detrimental.
Clubs like Stockport, Mansfield and Wrexham have also had key injuries but they have damn good squads, which has meant they can absorb those injuries. We don’t. Palmer is irreplaceable.
With the 10th best budget in the division LW had us punching above where in theory we should be.
Throughout this thread some have said LW subs weakened the side… that’s because the squad players are significantly weaker than our best 11. That is still the case.

Don't care really what the imaginary slump is down to, we are still in an imaginary slump. Don't you think the manager (any manager, not just LW) should be able to adjust to squad issues that impact on results (it is a results based game after all) but I did offer a reason for this imaginary slump when I said "(or got no support from the Bros during the summer window?)."

[Elite_Pie]

We can all see where you are coming from Elite but do you think he had no weaknesses?

His obvious weakness was that we conceded too many goals.

His obvious strength was that we scored too many goals!

It's a bit greedy to expect the best of both worlds, although Luke Williams actually gave it us last season. It was obviously going to be harder a level above, but I would much rather see a 4-3 win than a 1-0 win. Attendances suggest I'm not alone.

[Elite_Pie]

Just to add a little context;
Under Luke Williams we were promoted out of the National League, we won the most games we've ever won, in the National League, we scored the most goals we've ever scored, in the National League, we got the most points we've ever got, in the National League. He motivated a very good group of players and produced some of the best football a lot of supporters have seen, albeit in a generally weak National League. I have a lot of time and great appreciation for LW but he didn't leave us in a good place did he (and he did have tunnel vision, or got no support from the Bros during the summer window?).

Smiffy, I realise that his success was at the lowest level we've ever been, but it was still an unprecedented SUCCESS. I loved every minute of it, it rates up there with any of my 53 seasons as a Notts fan. I can promise that I celebrated Jodi Jones scoring the winner against Boreham Wood in the playoff semi and Cedwyn's penalty at Wembely with exactly the same passion that I celebrated Les Bradd's 89th minute goal at the Sh!tty ground and Ian Scanlon's header at Elland Road. Never once did I think "Hmm, it's good but remember we're only in the National league". The day I think like that will be the time to call it a day.

[legs77]

His obvious weakness was that we conceded too many goals.

His obvious strength was that we scored too many goals!

It's a bit greedy to expect the best of both worlds, although Luke Williams actually gave it us last season. It was obviously going to be harder a level above, but I would much rather see a 4-3 win than a 1-0 win. Attendances suggest I'm not alone.

Spot on Elite.

The guy has moved on and so should we without bitterness no need for it.

As an example if someone said to me Maynard will take us up via the play offs and then leave immediately I’d take that too !

[Piessince67]

Look we are 7th we still have a great chance of the plsy offs.LW has gone SM is here so lets support him.Incidentally we have the 5 teams around us at home and there lies our fate.