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    Quote Originally Posted by swaledale View Post
    I've had enough of "charismatic" leaders who have catch phrases that slip off the tongue and sound appealing to the dumb masses unable to consider the wider implications of what's been said.

    Farage is very good at what he does, unfortunately there is not a scintilla of evidence that he actually has any solutions to the "problems" he identifies, and thats putting aside the fact that he doesn't even identify the actual issues that need addressing, but highlights those he knows will attract the intention of the unthinking rabble.

    Farage is an astute campaigner and effective communicator, but he is not interested in responsible government. He is a self-serving amplifier of impotent rage, not a purveyor of practical solutions.

    As for these debates, irrelevant to be fair, the format isn't conducive to meaningful discussion, 45 seconds is not enough to provide a proper response to any issue raised and given that Sunak kept repeating the £2,000 tax rise lie - interesting point of attack from a PM whose government has inflicted the highest tax burden on working people whilst handing out millions to private companies and individuals.

    I see Thicky thinks Yougov has a left wing bias, mm have you looked at who runs it??? Dear me, what an uniformed ass he is.
    YOUGOV admited it has a left wing bias, because of its membership you ignoramous. Its full of teachers/ NHS/ civil service. It doesn't matter who owns it you clown, its who fills in the polls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trickytreesreds View Post
    YOUGOV admited it has a left wing bias, because of its membership you ignoramous. Its full of teachers/ NHS/ civil service. It doesn't matter who owns it you clown, its who fills in the polls.
    You do post some rubbish on here! Even a short read of the research would show that Yougov's polls have niether been biased towards the conservatives or labour and what is more its results have been in line with their polls but overall slightly more accurate.

    I don't know where you get your dubious information from, well I do and its mostly bat**** crazy internet conspiracy theorists. Every time you post, you just demonstrate how completely clueless you are, prime Farage material, he loves tw@ts like you!

    Its amusing how someone so stupid thinks they aren't, deluded or what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by swaledale View Post
    You do post some rubbish on here! Even a short read of the research would show that Yougov's polls have niether been biased towards the conservatives or labour and what is more its results have been in line with their polls but overall slightly more accurate.

    I don't know where you get your dubious information from, well I do and its mostly bat**** crazy internet conspiracy theorists. Every time you post, you just demonstrate how completely clueless you are, prime Farage material, he loves tw@ts like you!

    Its amusing how someone so stupid thinks they aren't, deluded or what?
    you really are a nob aren't upi?
    I posted months ago, YOUGOV themselves admitting most of their clients are of left bias,
    But hey ho, coming from a man who'd argue it wasn't raining, when drenched, I shouldn't be surprised.
    Believe what you want, no one seems to give a toss what you rant about either
    Last edited by Trickytreesreds; 07-06-2024 at 09:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramAnag View Post
    A tad simplistic or idealistic perhaps. Maybe you’re lucky. Maybe your surgery is indeed the role model for all GP surgeries throughout the country or maybe all ‘catchment areas’ are not the same.
    Either way I wasn’t just talking about surgeries, but about schools, hospitals, the emergency services, social services, immigration services, care for the elderly etc.
    Isn’t it the truth that the grown up question, the nettle we have to grasp, is…do we want better public and social services enough to fund them through higher taxes?
    It is, and I dont

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff Parkstone View Post
    It is, and I dont
    Strange response from an intelligent poster. Can’t have it both ways.
    I imagine none of us want to pay more tax, but then I don’t actually want to pay to have my boiler or my car serviced either…I just recognise that if I want them to perform reliably and properly then they’re costs I have to meet.
    The same is true of public services. If we want high quality schools, hospitals, elderly care etc then we have to pay the cost/‘service charge’.
    IF it’s done fairly and is targeted and ‘ring fenced’ properly I have no objection. It’s not a vote winner but it’s probably the truth.
    Last edited by ramAnag; 06-06-2024 at 06:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramAnag View Post
    Strange response from an intelligent poster. Can’t have it both ways.
    I imagine none of us want to pay more tax, but then I don’t actually want to pay to have my boiler or my car serviced either…I just recognise that if I want them to perform reliably and properly then they’re costs I have to meet.
    The same is true of public services. If we want high quality schools, hospitals, elderly care etc then we have to pay the cost/‘service charge’.
    IF it’s done fairly and is targeted and ‘ring fenced’ properly I have no objection. It’s not a vote winner but it’s probably the truth.
    And I would agree with you. But if anyone is going to do that, then the least they could do, was be honest about it.
    Lying and denying is in every speech/debate

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    Lets not forget the Euro elections this week end. Hottest topic? Oh dear.

    https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2...er-controls-po

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trickytreesreds View Post
    Lets not forget the Euro elections this week end. Hottest topic? Oh dear.

    https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2...er-controls-po
    Looks like you’re in trouble again. Please stop posting undeniable evidence from trusted sources

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    Forgetting party politics as such for a mo, Rishi dropped a massive ******* yesterday, no excuse for his actions yesterday even if he has apologised.

    I have little time for people who don’t demonstrate, or don’t get, British values, and there are a lot of all shapes sizes and colours, looks like Rishis on the list

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_Faber View Post
    Forgetting party politics as such for a mo, Rishi dropped a massive ******* yesterday, no excuse for his actions yesterday even if he has apologised.

    I have little time for people who don’t demonstrate, or don’t get, British values, and there are a lot of all shapes sizes and colours, looks like Rishis on the list
    Not entirely sure what you mean by ‘British values’, but all that really matters is that it’s further evidence of Sunak’s lack of judgement and fitness for office.
    First the National Service nonsense, then the Tuesday debate lies and now this totally disrespectful and avoidable own goal.
    He’s nothing but a glorified hedge fund manager and I suspect there’ll be a lot more to come out about that before this campaign is over.

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