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    That would be a no then.

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    ... think there may be more to the screening hysteria than meets the eye. The Gov set out its priorities - based upon the views of our experts - which have been different to other countries. Interestingly, the UK press, which looks for any negative angle to create attention, has quoted Germany as a role model. However, if we are to believe what we read, they are making a right mess of their testing. Never mind that, it suits the UK press to laud the mighty krauts, so superior in everything they do. Not sure if it's the UK press who have the inferiority complex or Germany which APPEARS to want to be top dog all the time.
    Germany, as part of their economic strategy, have a wealth of resources in the pharma sector so are better placed than most countries to carry out testing - but its quantity rather than quality.
    Let's not mention the fact that Germany fixed the pricing of the euro to its own advantage, so that economically, the rest of Europe is left trailing ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBlackHorse View Post
    Never mind that, it suits the UK press to laud the mighty krauts, so superior in everything they do.
    Well, it seems that they are a bit quicker at processing test results than we are:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-quicker.html

    Anyone who doesn't think that the government have made a complete cock-up of testing NHS staff must be blind or stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elite_Pie View Post
    Well, it seems that they are a bit quicker at processing test results than we are:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-quicker.html

    Anyone who doesn't think that the government have made a complete cock-up of testing NHS staff must be blind or stupid.
    The Germans have just admitted (according to what I've just been listening to) that the majority of those tested were young, fit and very healthy which means their testing figures give a false impression.

    France's death rates were also much lower until this week because they were only registering people who had died from the virus where the virus was the main cause of death, their death figures will now jump up as their true numbers are declared.

    This begs the question did France have it right? As has been debated on here already at some length not everyone who dies and tests positive for the virus at time of death have died with the virus as the main cause of death.

    On another note S Korea had one of the quickest rising number of covid cases after China but managed to stem the flow very quickly. People will argue this is because they ran an intensive testing program early doors, which they did, however it was easier for them to do this because 60% of the population tested were of a particular religious sect so they had a very positive public response.

    The one impressive thing S Korea have done is create a mobile phone app that tells you if anyone testing positive is near you and if so where they have been. This might stop you gpoing to a particular shop for example or change where you choose to do your daily exercise.

    I'm just working through some country by country data to see what can be deduced if anything that might suggest who and who hasn't got it right etc when it comes to reacting to the virus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBlackHorse View Post
    ... think there may be more to the screening hysteria than meets the eye. The Gov set out its priorities - based upon the views of our experts - which have been different to other countries. Interestingly, the UK press, which looks for any negative angle to create attention, has quoted Germany as a role model. However, if we are to believe what we read, they are making a right mess of their testing. Never mind that, it suits the UK press to laud the mighty krauts, so superior in everything they do. Not sure if it's the UK press who have the inferiority complex or Germany which APPEARS to want to be top dog all the time.
    Germany, as part of their economic strategy, have a wealth of resources in the pharma sector so are better placed than most countries to carry out testing - but its quantity rather than quality.
    Let's not mention the fact that Germany fixed the pricing of the euro to its own advantage, so that economically, the rest of Europe is left trailing ...
    When you refer to 'the UK press' just which newspapers are you citing in your cohort? Please respond with a tick
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    Mirror
    Mail
    Times
    Telegraph
    Express
    Guardian
    Independent
    Financial Times

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidders View Post
    When you refer to 'the UK press' just which newspapers are you citing in your cohort? Please respond with a tick
    Sun
    Mirror
    Mail
    Times
    Telegraph
    Express
    Guardian
    Independent
    Financial Times
    I saw this elsewhere - it seems there's not a lot of praise for our government whatever the newspaper:

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    ... you know very well, Snobhead 2, that the reputation of the UK press sometimes rises above gutter level, no matter to which banner you may wish to
    refer. As you know there is such a thing as your truth, my truth and the real truth, never mind anyones view, political or otherwise. Perhaps you would do better to get you head out of your backside and not worry about some of the details. Driller, the master of detail, is, amongst some others, at least presenting an equitable view these days; for which I thank him.
    On a much broader front it is becoming increasingly evident that the fudging of numbers in other countries is clear ... probably due to ignorance, incompetence and plain lies. Who's impressed by that ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBlackHorse View Post
    ... you know very well, Snobhead 2, that the reputation of the UK press sometimes rises above gutter level, no matter to which banner you may wish to
    refer. As you know there is such a thing as your truth, my truth and the real truth, never mind anyones view, political or otherwise. Perhaps you would do better to get you head out of your backside and not worry about some of the details. Driller, the master of detail, is, amongst some others, at least presenting an equitable view these days; for which I thank him.
    On a much broader front it is becoming increasingly evident that the fudging of numbers in other countries is clear ... probably due to ignorance, incompetence and plain lies. Who's impressed by that ...
    Well, H o r s e s h i t 1, according to your manual, it seems we can trust no one - which means you and I are also suspects. What a sad little stable you must live in.

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    It is said that some countries are deliberately manipulating their statistics to keep their apparent numbers of fatalities low, for political gain or high, for financial support. It would now seem the first low figures that were coming from France were announcing deaths in hospitals only. Now they include ALL deaths thought to be those WITH COVID19, their figures have jumped alarmingly, now 4th in the charts. Can a country who juggle their figures like this be trusted or quoted?

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