OT Cummings Press Statement

[mistaram]

Only one talking bollox here sunshine, put your red blinkers back on if you wish.
https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presente...minic-cumming/

Apologise for the delay been busy
I sometimes wonder if you for real or you live in world off hate You trawl all day to find a video from a person who took out a court against Boris Johnson citing the lockdown was illegal Brendan Oneil is a right wing psychopath who is The Editor of Spike Magazine who motto is we will change the world to way we want it Not really surprised you would affiliate yourself to such trash As for Cummings you trying to defend the indefensible

[Trickytreesreds]

Apologise for the delay been busy
I sometimes wonder if you for real or you live in world off hate You trawl all day to find a video from a person who took out a court against Boris Johnson citing the lockdown was illegal Brendan Oneil is a right wing psychopath who is The Editor of Spike Magazine who motto is we will change the world to way we want it Not really surprised you would affiliate yourself to such trash As for Cummings you trying to defend the indefensible

Again you are talking tripe.
I am not defending Cummings, but I am defending fair treatment.
Are you one dimensional in your responses?

I said sack him. But if that's the rule, then others have to follow. Do you get it now?


If I was defending him, then what about this-


Restrictions on movement
6.—(1) During the emergency period, no person may leave the place where they are living without reasonable excuse.

(2) For the purposes of paragraph (1), a reasonable excuse includes the need—

(a)to obtain basic necessities, including food and medical supplies for those in the same household (including any pets or animals in the household) or for vulnerable persons and supplies for the essential upkeep, maintenance and functioning of the household, or the household of a vulnerable person, or to obtain money, including from any business listed in Part 3 of Schedule 2;
(b)to take exercise either alone or with other members of their household;
(c)to seek medical assistance, including to access any of the services referred to in paragraph 37 or 38 of Schedule 2;
(d)to provide care or assistance, including relevant personal care within the meaning of paragraph 7(3 of Schedule 4 to the Safeguarding of Vulnerable Groups Act 2006(1), to a vulnerable person, or to provide emergency assistance;
(e)to donate blood;
(f)to travel for the purposes of work or to provide voluntary or charitable services, where it is not reasonably possible for that person to work, or to provide those services, from the place where they are living;
(g)to attend a funeral of—
(i)a member of the person’s household,
(ii)a close family member, or
(iii)if no-one within sub-paragraphs (i) or (ii) are attending, a friend;
(h)to fulfil a legal obligation, including attending court or satisfying bail conditions, or to participate in legal proceedings;
(i)to access critical public services, including—
(i)childcare or educational facilities (where these are still available to a child in relation to whom that person is the parent, or has parental responsibility for, or care of the child);
(ii)social services;
(iii)services provided by the Department of Work and Pensions;
(iv)services provided to victims (such as victims of crime);
(j)in relation to children who do not live in the same household as their parents, or one of their parents, to continue existing arrangements for access to, and contact between, parents and children, and for the purposes of this paragraph, “parent” includes a person who is not a parent of the child, but who has parental responsibility for, or who has care of, the child;
(k)in the case of a minister of religion or worship leader, to go to their place of worship;
(l)to move house where reasonably necessary;
(m)to avoid injury or illness or to escape a risk of harm.
(3) For the purposes of paragraph (1), the place where a person is living includes the premises where they live together with any garden, yard, passage, stair, garage, outhouse or other appurtenance of such premises.

(4) Paragraph (1) does not apply to any person who is homeless.



Point D gives him wiggle room

[Trickytreesreds]

Tricky, I don’t care who they go after. If people broke the rules that’s their problem and I speak as someone who missed one of my son’s ‘landmark’ birthdays recently because I followed the rules.

In Kinnock’s case it seems he journeyed to his father’s home and socially distanced in the front garden. He was wrong, but he didn’t believe he had Coronavirus and he didn’t make any secret of it. Neither, as an opposition MP, was he a fundamental part of the rule/slogan making process.

We’re going round and round in circles and frankly it’s become very boring, but I’ll just add this point of information.
This afternoon I had cause to drive through Matlock Bath and to Chatsworth. The obvious question at both places was ‘lockdown...what lockdown?’
I don’t know to what extent the two are linked, but I suspect Cummings’ behaviour has left people thinking that if the ‘elite’ don’t have to stay at home or alert then neither do they.

I think that's been going on for a while mucker.
I doubt that bikers have Dominic Cummings in their minds.

https://metro.co.uk/2020/05/17/villa...ules-12717908/

[Trickytreesreds]

This is what I am talking about, hypocrisy at its finest

Well done Sir Ian. we your insight.


https://twitter.com/search?q=ian%20b...rc=typed_query

[MadAmster]

[QUOTE=Ram59;39501625]

I think any parent can get their head around the idea of someone "doing what's best for a child". Having said that, nobody involved has explained why the wife's sister, 2 miles down the road, apparently, wasn't a viable option..... and even that would have been against the government's instructions.

You keep on about the wife's sister down the road, but she may be an alcoholic psychopath or may need to be shielded or someone in the household could be in a similar position.

You would hardly be expected to volunteer such information.

I do keep on because it's common knowledge and nowhere has there been a report claiming she was "unable".............

[mistaram]

Again you are talking tripe.
I am not defending Cummings, but I am defending fair treatment.
Are you one dimensional in your responses?

I said sack him. But if that's the rule, then others have to follow. Do you get it now?


If I was defending him, then what about this-


Restrictions on movement
6.—(1) During the emergency period, no person may leave the place where they are living without reasonable excuse.

(2) For the purposes of paragraph (1), a reasonable excuse includes the need—

(a)to obtain basic necessities, including food and medical supplies for those in the same household (including any pets or animals in the household) or for vulnerable persons and supplies for the essential upkeep, maintenance and functioning of the household, or the household of a vulnerable person, or to obtain money, including from any business listed in Part 3 of Schedule 2;
(b)to take exercise either alone or with other members of their household;
(c)to seek medical assistance, including to access any of the services referred to in paragraph 37 or 38 of Schedule 2;
(d)to provide care or assistance, including relevant personal care within the meaning of paragraph 7(3 of Schedule 4 to the Safeguarding of Vulnerable Groups Act 2006(1), to a vulnerable person, or to provide emergency assistance;
(e)to donate blood;
(f)to travel for the purposes of work or to provide voluntary or charitable services, where it is not reasonably possible for that person to work, or to provide those services, from the place where they are living;
(g)to attend a funeral of—
(i)a member of the person’s household,
(ii)a close family member, or
(iii)if no-one within sub-paragraphs (i) or (ii) are attending, a friend;
(h)to fulfil a legal obligation, including attending court or satisfying bail conditions, or to participate in legal proceedings;
(i)to access critical public services, including—
(i)childcare or educational facilities (where these are still available to a child in relation to whom that person is the parent, or has parental responsibility for, or care of the child);
(ii)social services;
(iii)services provided by the Department of Work and Pensions;
(iv)services provided to victims (such as victims of crime);
(j)in relation to children who do not live in the same household as their parents, or one of their parents, to continue existing arrangements for access to, and contact between, parents and children, and for the purposes of this paragraph, “parent” includes a person who is not a parent of the child, but who has parental responsibility for, or who has care of, the child;
(k)in the case of a minister of religion or worship leader, to go to their place of worship;
(l)to move house where reasonably necessary;
(m)to avoid injury or illness or to escape a risk of harm.
(3) For the purposes of paragraph (1), the place where a person is living includes the premises where they live together with any garden, yard, passage, stair, garage, outhouse or other appurtenance of such premises.

(4) Paragraph (1) does not apply to any person who is homeless.



Point in D gives him wiggle room

No I'm not dimensional in my responses
I don't waste my time cut and pasting something that everybody already knows . What have others got to do with it This is a thread about Cummings if you want to involve other people start a new thread for it

[Trickytreesreds]

No I'm not dimensional in my responses
I don't waste my time cut and pasting something that everybody already knows . What have others got to do with it This is a thread about Cummings if you want to involve other people start a new thread for it

Jesus wept.
I KNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But it is all relevent. Whatever Cummings has/not done, has to be taken in context with the whole situation.
Should he have done it? In my opinion, no.
Should he be punished? In my opinion yes
Should everyone in a similar position of authority be ounished? In my opinion Yes

Now we can bang the bash the Cummings drum all day if you want. It suits your needs/desires. But if you are going to ignore the other crimes committed in the same mould, then brilliant.
Congratualtions, then drum head trials it is.

Lets hang, draw and quarter him and wait for the next one.
Only then the gloves will be off.
You sound just same as Blackwood in that Twitter quote.
I'm slating you, but my crime doesn't warrent attention.
Case closed.


Gald we cleared that up and roll on firing squads.

[AdiSalisbury]

You lot are wasting your lives bickering about these things

[Andy_Faber]

You lot are wasting your lives bickering about these things

You’ve summed it up in ten words

[ramAnag]

You’ve summed it up in ten words

Really? Strange comment from you of all people, Andy.

There’s no football, no sport, it doesn’t take very long and basically if it hadn’t been for four particular threads - all sadly related to Covid or Cummings - the forum would have gone the way of many others.