This Mask Fiasco!

[Albionic68]

And that’s what it comes down to education.....I’ve heard a number of chicken factories also having to be shut.. now you can imagine the level of education those workers have to be doing those jobs.....

Utter b@ll@cks, they're probably all graduates in photography or media studies....... apparently 😉 .

[Albionic68]

.......The Corona regulations for mask wearing do not Trump the Equality Act.

Well said Donald 🤣🤣 .

[Exiledvillan]

You are just the sort of ignorant plank that has caused this aggressive behaviour towards those who do not wear a muzzle. Just because you see someone who is not wearing it it doesn't necessarily mean that person is a 'tw@t'

The person not wearing one as a right to be protected in a shop, by law, from the muzzle wearing zealots like yourself.

Any shop etc who adopts the mask-wearing must put in place, by law, a policy requiring customers not to challenge others for not wearing a face covering and to treat them with the same respect that they would show to others who are wearing a face covering

OR displaying prominent and clear signage giving notice of that policy

OR enforcing the policy by reasonable intervention when any breach is brought to the shops attention AND where necessary removing from the shop premises and refusing to serve customers who do not observe the policy

All of the above is within the Equality Act 2010. So next time you decide to bully and harangue those without a muzzle and call em tw@ts just bear in mind it could be you who gets fined.

Thanks for the enlightening salvo of tosh, Phild.

I am aware that some may not be able to wear a mask. I, for example, find it difficult to wear one for more than 10mins or so, due to my respiratory problems and a heart condition. I am fortunate enough to be able to pick and choose which ‘enclosed retailers’ to enter. Should it be ‘rammers’ and likely to be a half-hour job, I don’t bother. Therefore I tend to shop early in the morning. I also appreciate that not everyone has this freedom of choice, but there are ways around it. How did they all survive the ‘Full Lockdown’ earlier this year?

Are you trying to back your ignorant and obnoxious stance against ‘the muzzle’, by claiming that every non-mask-wearing member of the public has a health reason for their actions? Or could many quite possibly be the ‘ignorant tw@s’ mentioned in my earlier post?

As for equality, what about the right not to be infected?

Finally, re. aggressive behaviour and haranguing people? Not me, the aforementioned health issues prevent me from being so, even if I was that kind of person. I may not like or agree with ‘bleeding hearts’ like yourself, but I believe it is your human right to think that way. Just as it is my human right to think that your attitude is disgusting. But of course, you are a member of the ‘thought police’, so how dare I think in such a way.

Mind how you think now.

[bordering]

latest numbers- deaths 41403 some 0.053% of the population , positive tests 322280 2.1% of the population

Hardly a health pandemic- but a pandemic of panic , "the worst depression since 1709", adverse effects on non Covid health issues, education, mental health, loss of civil liberties, domestic violence etc & it has not even begun to bite yet what with furlough payments eating out incentives.

And you worry about masks?

[mickd1961]

Thanks for the enlightening salvo of tosh, Phild.

I am aware that some may not be able to wear a mask. I, for example, find it difficult to wear one for more than 10mins or so, due to my respiratory problems and a heart condition. I am fortunate enough to be able to pick and choose which ‘enclosed retailers’ to enter. Should it be ‘rammers’ and likely to be a half-hour job, I don’t bother. Therefore I tend to shop early in the morning. I also appreciate that not everyone has this freedom of choice, but there are ways around it. How did they all survive the ‘Full Lockdown’ earlier this year?

Are you trying to back your ignorant and obnoxious stance against ‘the muzzle’, by claiming that every non-mask-wearing member of the public has a health reason for their actions? Or could many quite possibly be the ‘ignorant tw@s’ mentioned in my earlier post?

As for equality, what about the right not to be infected?

Finally, re. aggressive behaviour and haranguing people? Not me, the aforementioned health issues prevent me from being so, even if I was that kind of person. I may not like or agree with ‘bleeding hearts’ like yourself, but I believe it is your human right to think that way. Just as it is my human right to think that your attitude is disgusting. But of course, you are a member of the ‘thought police’, so how dare I think in such a way.

Mind how you think now.

Excellent post EV.

[kettering_baggie]

I don’t think that anyone has the faintest idea what will happen if an effective vaccine fails to materialise. Would we keep ‘social distancing’ for evermore? Permanent use of face masks? What the hell would be the situation for public events, such as football, concerts, theatre etc? Will the old ‘normal’ ever return? I have my doubts.

[SwedishBaggie]

latest numbers- deaths 41403 some 0.053% of the population , positive tests 322280 2.1% of the population

Hardly a health pandemic- but a pandemic of panic , "the worst depression since 1709", adverse effects on non Covid health issues, education, mental health, loss of civil liberties, domestic violence etc & it has not even begun to bite yet what with furlough payments eating out incentives.

And you worry about masks?

The real pandemic is def the panic, alarm etc, and the draconian measures - which create much more bad health, death etc than the Corona virus itself.

I have for a long time been interested in the difference between deaths infected with Corona, and deaths directly caused by Corona. Public Health of Sweden have now stated that all people infected with Corona are in the official ”death statistics”, but only ca 15% of them died directly from Corona!

The first six months in Sweden more people died compared to other years, but in July and August much fewer have died. This is due to the fact that those who died in March-April were very fragile, and would have, tragically, died soon anyway. If this continues the death rate could be equivalent to most years...

This is Sweden, but, since we talk about the same virus, I imagine it could be similar in many other countries.

And people and governments want stricter measures, lockdowns etc, you couldn’t make it up. When will the world wake up?

[SwedishBaggie]

Let’s make the Asian communities scapegoats shall we. They are truly the instigators of this virus spreading, they are the most unhygienic by gobbing here and there, no manners whatsoever, no masks, cannot simply understand the rules of a one way system to even contemplate any social distancing eh.

When we no longer are able to blame anyone else let’s blame all the asians eh. It was the asians in China that caused this, now it’s the asians here in the UK. What pathetic gibberish fact to soley put this down to ethnic this group.

Just because you notice the disregard to rules amongst asians doesn’t mean they are the main culprits of this virus spreading. Perhaps you need to read a bit about unconscious bias here. Are you looking for these faults in asians deliberately and think yeah that’s how it all started?

Who is having all the secret raves? Illegal house parties? Who owns all the holiday homes up and down the country? Who is holidaying in Tenby? Who’s going on holiday into Europe? Which ****er gov did not ensure border checks from overseas arrivals? But no, let’s blame all the asians.

Whilst i’ll admit i’ve experience some people of the ‘asian community’ to not adhere to the rules, it’s just as bad by the white privileged folks too.

We can no longer discriminate against asians and blacks as we previously could but let’s find a new way to do it.. using covid-19 eh. Right wing racist media at its finest hour.

If the rules are not being made compulsory for all, don’t go there trying to blame ethnic minorities.

Agreed regis. There are lowlife and scumbags in/of all peoples, nations, religons etc.

When I see someone behaving badly, I think of them as idiots, plonkers etc - I do not dwell over their nationality, creed, gender, age etc, that’s totally irrelevant imo.

Maybe certain football supporters of certain football clubs could be the exception... 😎😜

[bordering]

This is bordering on a conspiracy theory mate. If you are right then why don’t you go holidaying somewhere where there’s a large crowd.. say Wuhan that had a festival the other day. If you make it back unaffected, i’ll then believe you mate.

Is that really your best and most well reasoned response?

Never mind the numbers, never question those in power, never do your own research you just keep knee jerking away.

[bordering]

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/-
really really scary numbers patients in hospital 841..... patients on ventilators 76 new deaths 2 total deaths 41405 out of a population of 66650000- you do the sums.
Scary because this is a pandemic of panic - we can all guess at the motives of those in power but we all will carry the can- not them- just us- economically, socially & in every aspect of our lives- they have hollowed out our culture- the pub- no standing @ the bar, the game behind closed doors, window shopping why bother?

The numbers don't lie - though they've even tried to fix them - but the establishment politicians , BBC , Civil Service do , are and will.