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    Quote Originally Posted by spaldy View Post
    And yes, I'd gladly take the increased money for finishing up 6 spots in the prem this year. that's a lot of money not to mention champions league football.
    Sorry m8, u r missing the point. As a for instance, last night game was important to Liverpool in terms of Champions league football. If the ESL goes ahead, last night's game is meaningless for Liverpool, their focus would be on the ESL. You would be content with getting into the Champions league by beating Liverpool U23s?

    And do you really expect the money in the PL to be unaffected when the 6 clubs who generated 1/3 of ALL revenue in all leagues are playing in an ESL they can't be relegated from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by spaldy View Post
    hard to get more more definitive than the FA expelling them.

    at that point is turns into a legal "sword fight". I think the FA has a much larger "sword" than the 6 clubs.

    if my understanding of brexit is correct the court on this matter will be an English court and not some flunky court out of brussels. I suspect that the FA's injunction would be immediate and absolute which means that the 6 clubs will get no prem money, no champions league money and no TV money.

    Guess who wins if that's the case and they have to go it alone on the 6 billion loan from JP Morgan.

    Bend them over and break it off and let the rest of the world enjoy it.

    FWIW, this is a world wide event. even the local sports shows in Indianapolis are covering it. I've seen articles in the Wall Street Journal and national shows are talking about it as well. it's not just limited to Europe.
    As I said, attempts to expel would inevitably lead to legal challenge and until resolved expelling would be on hold. They know that as well as anyone, so potentially years in the courts. That same requirement for resolution holds with any country FA "injunction" (for which by the way there is no precedent)

    We're talking as if this was all English leagues. It isn't, there are Italian and Spanish clubs involved so action has to be at FIFA/UEFA level, and concerted and co-ordinated with the authorities in each affected country. As far as the clubs involved, they care neither for their own fans, employees, the leagues they currently play in, far less the chattering classes or what get aired on social media and/or the Wall Street Journal, only for the money already on offer from JP Morgan and/or the TV rights deal waiting in the wings.

    As I said in an earlier post, take the players out of the equation by making it impossible for them to play in anything BUT the ESL, THEN boredom will soon follow.

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    As a Yank I know little about eurozone but I think that the English now have autonomy on their legal system.

    forgot the other countries and teams involved in the super league. Just crush and bankrupt the English teams. the league falls apart at that moment. Make it such a high stakes game of poker that even billionaires back down.

    I think you'd find that the FA has total sovereignty over all of the English teams and I think you'd have very little, if any, problem in getting all of the clubs in the FA to vote the 6 teams out. This is especially the case if the lower teams get a windfall of money.

    Make it transparent and a public spectacle. Make the stakes so high that they owners back down.

    it's really a "make or break" moment for the FA and FIFA. back down and you'll forever be beholden to these types of teams threatening to break off. Win and likley put this off for years and year.

    I'd rather fight than bend a knee to these greedy owners. I think the majority of football fans worldwide feel the same.

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    PS- It's a win/win for the FA and FIFA.

    neither of these organizations win many PR contests. what better hill for them to fight and, maybe die on, than this one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by spaldy View Post
    As a Yank I know little about eurozone but I think that the English now have autonomy on their legal system.

    forgot the other countries and teams involved in the super league. Just crush and bankrupt the English teams. the league falls apart at that moment. Make it such a high stakes game of poker that even billionaires back down.

    I think you'd find that the FA has total sovereignty over all of the English teams and I think you'd have very little, if any, problem in getting all of the clubs in the FA to vote the 6 teams out. This is especially the case if the lower teams get a windfall of money.

    Make it transparent and a public spectacle. Make the stakes so high that they owners back down.

    it's really a "make or break" moment for the FA and FIFA. back down and you'll forever be beholden to these types of teams threatening to break off. Win and likley put this off for years and year.

    I'd rather fight than bend a knee to these greedy owners. I think the majority of football fans worldwide feel the same.
    With you entirely in your sentiments, the issue isn't with what sanctions the FA (and others), can mandate, its the passage through the courts with the inevitable challenges (from people with VERY deep pockets), that will make club level actions a lengthy process, hence why banning players from non-FIFA/UEFA affiliated competitions is a simpler, faster way to go. Shame it would hurt the players, but alls fair in love, war and football.

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    Man city and Chelsea just pulled out of the greedy 6

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    It's all going tits up.. Woodward resigns and Juventus chairman.. These Six
    clubs need massive actions tak n against them and huge points reductions as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alfinyalcabo View Post
    It's all going tits up.. Woodward resigns and Juventus chairman.. These Six
    clubs need massive actions tak n against them and huge points reductions as well.
    Thats going to be a problem isn't it, how do you punish the clubs. Fans, players, coaches obviously not involved in this. What punishment really fits the crime here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeedsFTW View Post
    Thats going to be a problem isn't it, how do you punish the clubs. Fans, players, coaches obviously not involved in this. What punishment really fits the crime here?
    simple- liquidate them. force them into court and bankrupt the owners.

    Odd to me that the FA never had a shred or integrity or concern when pushing us to the brink. Not like we didn't have hundreds of thousands of fans and they did their best to push us into oblivion. Now, all of a sudden they are worried.

    However, I'll concede and say that it may not be in the best interest of the UK. As such I'll compromise and they can just liquidate scumchester, arsenal and liverpool. they appear to be the ringleaders and owned by yanks. who gives a f%^ck if you bankrupt them.

    turn over the bankrupt club to supporters groups.

    Make the damage so nuclear that no one ever even thinks about doing it again.

    let them work their way up from conference using the fair play rules.
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