Sutton Utd

[i961pie]

Good to see you admit (finally) that Ardley was a shambles.
I'm afraid it's impossible to ignore Ardley as I've already explained hes the barometer on which IB is compared to,simply because Ardley was the manager before him.
There are many on here that still haven't reached your conclusion about Ardley yet as they still defend his honour about anything football related.
I'm afraid your dream is an impossible dream as you know managers from the past crop up week in week out I mean Nolan keeps getting a look in as does Cotterill and theres a chap called Sirrell that gets a mention from way back.
I think you need to relax a little and if your not sure if you are going to like a topic posted just give it a miss in the first place.
Or , if you have read it and dont like it just forget about it.
TOP TIP if you see the name Ardley or Saddo(5h1t I've said it.! ) dont bother to read it as it seems to send your anxiety levels into hyper drive.)
I've heard toupes are an expensive piece of kit and I wouldnt want it to start malting through worry and stress.
One final thing I'm sure once we start losing one or 2 games some Ardley lovers will tell us all how wrong we were had was sacked, probably a bit like you when we lost the semis and dropped out of the play offs, it seemed ok to throw his name around then.

Cropping up week in week out isn't a problem, cropping up every thread is. Surely enough people have told you how boring you are.
By the way read my post again and point out the shambles bit?
How old are you by the way? your juvenile drivel puts you in the junior school bracket,
God help your class teacher.
More to be pitied than scorned

[laddo]

This thread started off being about Sutton United FC, but as night follows day it's inevitable it will end up being about Neal Ardley#viva

Infatuated? Obsessed? Living in the past? Nah don't be silly

[Davy500]

This thread started off being about Sutton United FC, but as night follows day it's inevitable it will end up being about Neal Ardley#viva

Infatuated? Obsessed? Living in the past? Nah don't be silly

Its relevant Laddo, because even tho we are congratulating sutton on their promotion, one then has to ask how they have achieved this on minimal budget and resources compared to Notts

The answer or large reason for Notts failure at this level ( not to mention the relegation that your so keen to forget)was down to Ardleys incompetence , and his poor style of defensive play that allowed poor teams to beat us regulary.

Both the current owners, and Hardy, gave Ardley every chance to be competitive on the the field , by backing him heavily,. Interesting question for you, over his time at the club, how many of his own players did Ardley bring in, yet he still could not sort it out

[sidders]

Ardley was a decent man who left this club with dignity and respect. Yes, I thought he was THE MAN to sort out our club and get us back in the league.
Elite is one of the posters I respect and it troubled me that despite my views on Ardley, Elite was insistent that we were going nowhere under his stewardship.
In the end, Ardleym had to go but who was chosen for his replacement shocked and disappointed me. However, it would seem that the Danish guys know their bacon. I doubt we'll get through in the playoffs but i still look forward with optimism to 2021-22.

[Davy500]

Ardley was a decent man who left this club with dignity and respect. Yes, I thought he was THE MAN to sort out our club and get us back in the league.
Elite is one of the posters I respect and it troubled me that despite my views on Ardley, Elite was insistent that we were going nowhere under his stewardship.
In the end, Ardleym had to go but who was chosen for his replacement shocked and disappointed me. However, it would seem that the Danish guys know their bacon. I doubt we'll get through in the playoffs but i still look forward with optimism to 2021-22.

I second that, its a big ask in the playoffs, but we are on a run, so its certainly possible, its the belief to win, and how we set up that matters (that is why i never liked the defensive and respect the point approach, because its negative, and invites other teams onto to us )
But i look forward with optimism , now we have seen what IB can do, in the relatively short time he has been here, i am much more confident about our future, once IB brings in some of his own players, i think Notts will be a much stronger outfit next season, Sutton Utd have shown the way, get most of your points from poor to mid table teams

[PedroTheFisherman66]

I second that, its a big ask in the playoffs, but we are on a run, so its certainly possible, its the belief to win, and how we set up that matters (that is why i never liked the defensive and respect the point approach, because its negative, and invites other teams onto to us )
But i look forward with optimism , now we have seen what IB can do, in the relatively short time he has been here, i am much more confident about our future, once IB brings in some of his own players, i think Notts will be a much stronger outfit next season, Sutton Utd have shown the way, get most of your points from poor to mid table teams

Agree with this.
IB Inherited a faltering stuttering boring and negatively focused team.. To turn that all around and ultimately gain promotion in such a short space of time would be a miracle.
If he doesn't, I look forward to next season and cant wait to see what IB achieves with a full pre season and a sprinkling of new signings that he thinks will improve the squad and his favoured style of play.

SUTTON ....

[ncfcog]

People really shouldn't be that surprised by Sutton. They boast two of the most threatening attacking midfielders in the league in Beautyman and Olaofe, the latter being a very good loan from Millwall.

Olaofe is a player I would have liked to see at Notts, still young and far from the finished article but with a very big future ahead of him. One of the few left wingers to run DKE ragged this season. They also have a very good back room team, especially in the performance analysis department who managed to work out early on in the season exactly who and what they needed to be successful.

Fair play to them, they fully deserved their promotion and the plaudits that come with it, but the irony isn't lost on me that we did the double over them!

[laddo]

Its relevant Laddo, because even tho we are congratulating sutton on their promotion, one then has to ask how they have achieved this on minimal budget and resources compared to Notts

The answer or large reason for Notts failure at this level ( not to mention the relegation that your so keen to forget)was down to Ardleys incompetence , and his poor style of defensive play that allowed poor teams to beat us regulary.

Both the current owners, and Hardy, gave Ardley every chance to be competitive on the the field , by backing him heavily,. Interesting question for you, over his time at the club, how many of his own players did Ardley bring in, yet he still could not sort it out

I don't know the answer to that question.

So on that basis the likes of Chesterfield, Wrexham, Stockport, Hartlepool, Yeovil etc also need to be asking how they let little Sutton deservedly win the title? Right?

By the same token , last season little Barrow and little Harrogate they outshone Notts and Ardley but moreso the other clubs and managers with bigger financial resources. That's 3 examples for you right there, you need to be a well run club first and foremost not the laughing stock of the entire football league as we were that season.

Doesn't it prove that it's not all about the size of wallet and how much you back managers. Didn't do us much good under your buddy Me Hardy's reign. You can get promoted if you are well run club with a good manager right?

Recently you mentioned the turning point in your mate Hardy's tenure was the oh so harsh officiating in the play off semi final. Can I suggest to you the bigger turning points were when he sacked Nolan? Or Kewell or more than both of those perhaps appointed Ardley? The "worst manager in Notts history" according to DavyFacts


Think about that for a little while before replying.

[Davy500]

I don't know the answer to that question.

So on that basis the likes of Chesterfield, Wrexham, Stockport, Hartlepool, Yeovil etc also need to be asking how they let little Sutton deservedly win the title? Right?

By the same token , last season little Barrow and little Harrogate they outshone Notts and Ardley but moreso the other clubs and managers with bigger financial resources. That's 3 examples for you right there, you need to be a well run club first and foremost not the laughing stock of the entire football league as we were that season.

Doesn't it prove that it's not all about the size of wallet and how much you back managers. Didn't do us much good under your buddy Me Hardy's reign. You can get promoted if you are well run club with a good manager right?

Recently you mentioned the turning point in your mate Hardy's tenure was the oh so harsh officiating in the play off semi final. Can I suggest to you the bigger turning points were when he sacked Nolan? Or Kewell or more than both of those perhaps appointed Ardley? The "worst manager in Notts history" according to DavyFacts


Think about that for a little while before replying.

The answer as to why sutton won the title, is because they consistently beat poor to mid table teams, something Ardley never did, he could,nt even beat Dover , that won 2 of their 15 matches, let that sink in

I already explained it could have quite easily been us in the Championship today, instead of Coventry. Things could have quite easily turned out well for Hardy

Yeah i always said it was a huge mistake sacking Nolan ( surprisingly a lot of fans wanted him gone- hope they are happy with what they got, and where we are today )
Hindsight is simple, there is no way Hardy, or any of us, at that time, even had thought of relegation
Guess where relegation was born, by Ardley, winning once in his first 12 matches, casting us 8 points from safety , losing the key match against macclesfield,.....
It beggers belief some notts fans were behind this clown - for absolutely no reason, his stats were worse than fullartons, its an absolute disgrace

[laddo]

You already admitted this before
You were asked if you hired an electrician that was incompetent, who would you blame, yourself, or the electrician, you said the electrician, so i rest my case

Not this old chestnut again, you would blame the electrician and you would sue the company that employed such an incompetent electrician.

It's all about recruitment