O/T:- Tangible Brexit Dividends

[upthemaggies]

Regards vaccines, this from two days ago.......

Channel 4 News

"Herd immunity is not a possibility" because the Delta variant "still infects vaccinated individuals".
Professor Sir Andrew Pollard, director of the Oxford Vaccine Group, says there is nothing "the UK can do to stop the emergence of new variants".

https://twitter.com/Channel4News/sta...86490002997248

[PedroTheFisherman66]

You're right Pedro, it was a gamble, but of sorts. Should Boris have waited two or three years while research and testing was completed before allowing it's use?

personally I thought a tighter lock down to buy more time was a better option.
Only time will tell how good the gamble was and if it was a risk worth taking.

[TheBlackHorse]

... those of you who have experienced being self-employed know that there are tough times with which to contend before you start to gain the benefits. Most attempts at self-employment fail. GB is going the self-employed route with all its trials and tribulations. There is little to compare with the feelings associated with S/E and to know that you makeur own decisions. No need to rely on others for the fundamental decisions. Many remoaners are exhibiting the symptoms associated with institutional protection. Some will get over it; others are too weak minded to adapt.

[frenchmagpie]

... those of you who have experienced being self-employed know that there are tough times with which to contend before you start to gain the benefits. Most attempts at self-employment fail. GB is going the self-employed route with all its trials and tribulations. There is little to compare with the feelings associated with S/E and to know that you makeur own decisions. No need to rely on others for the fundamental decisions. Many remoaners are exhibiting the symptoms associated with institutional protection. Some will get over it; others are too weak minded to adapt.

Is this now the ridiculous analogy thread ? How about being thrown out of a loving home onto the street ? You'll be in an abusive foster home when you get that US deal. Or your best customer leaving for a more expensive rival because they don't like your terms and conditions.
We can all play that game and as someone who has been self-employed for 40 years I can spot a good deal when I see one. Sovreignty made by Eton-boys ain't it.

[forwardmagpie]

That's not really how it works forward. When a side wins an election you don't look at the oppositions manifesto to see what the losing promised but has not happened, they are not in charge - the PM of the time resigned the day after. Obviously the remain campaign didn't sway enough of the general public to get over the line. The Leave camping are now in charge, this the most Brexit government ever with MP's hand-picked to enact the wishes of Johnson and Gove to 'Get Brexit Done'. They are now completely running the show to push through the 'Oven-Ready Deal' with an 80 seat majority. What is it that leave promised that is now making your life better?

That’s fine Mapperley avoid the question as I said it is a stupid question after such a short period.

[TheBlackHorse]

... Frenchie... you seem to miss the plot; hope you're not unwell. Perhaps you're suffering from gallic self interest. How could you want to remain within the corrupt EU? Perhaps you joined the corrupt bandwaggon - France enjoying being mistress to her German master ...

[SwalePie]

... Frenchie... you seem to miss the plot; hope you're not unwell. Perhaps you're suffering from gallic self interest. How could you want to remain within the corrupt EU? Perhaps you joined the corrupt bandwaggon - France enjoying being mistress to her German master ...

The EU is corrupt? Wow, thank goodness the saintly Boris Johnson government has successfully extricated us to the sunlit uplands with no damage to our economy and no inconvenience or losses to us self employed people doing business with the other 27 members eh?

[Elite_Pie]

The EU is corrupt? Wow, thank goodness the saintly Boris Johnson government has successfully extricated us to the sunlit uplands with no damage to our economy and no inconvenience or losses to us self employed people doing business with the other 27 members eh?

That pretty much sums up why I decided to voted remain. I don't doubt that the EU are corrupt, but on a 'lesser of two evils basis', I decided the EU were a much better option than Boris f@cking Johnson.

[SwalePie]

That pretty much sums up why I decided to voted remain. I don't doubt that the EU are corrupt, but on a 'lesser of two evils basis', I decided the EU were a much better option than Boris f@cking Johnson.

Snap!

[LaxtonLad]

That pretty much sums up why I decided to voted remain. I don't doubt that the EU are corrupt, but on a 'lesser of two evils basis', I decided the EU were a much better option than Boris f@cking Johnson.

But Boris won't always be here, will he? The corrupt Euro-fixers and their millions of wasters will be though, none of them wanted us as a member but were happy with us as a cash cow.