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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_Faber View Post
    So I’m expecting that when I say I’m walking away from spats in future, you treat it in the same spirit, and you won’t treat my withdrawal as an admission of defeat. That will reduce follow up toing and froing and save a lot of frustration on the part of other forum members
    I wasn’t aware that I did treat it as an ‘admission of defeat’…more a case of you exiting a debate prematurely for whatever reason. Does that cause frustration ‘on the part of other forum members’? I wouldn’t know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_Faber View Post
    So I’m expecting that when I say I’m walking away from spats in future, you treat it in the same spirit, and you won’t treat my withdrawal as an admission of defeat. That will reduce follow up toing and froing and save a lot of frustration on the part of other forum members
    You have a habit of going very quiet whenever challenged with demonstrable facts or when one of your infamous anecdotal proof of concept has been demolished.

    I do agree with your comment on name calling and mental health, however, you've picked the wrong person to defend in our "Red Friend" he was infamous for his nasty name calling and threats over on the now dormant Red Dog Forum and has uses many offensive slurs on here. You may not be aware of the former but as a Mod you should be aware of what he has posted on he, but then maybe its down to the fact you have sympathy with what he posts, certainly your opinions would lead any reasonable person to think so.

    As for the sobriquet I have given him, I mean if one posts false statements, contradicts oneself and repeats the utter bilge pumped out by the right wing media, politicians and grifters on the internet who should know better, then it seems very appropriate. He is dumb all over, maybe when he can demonstrate he has actually considered the facts, rather than paroting some obvious lies I might reconsider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swaledale View Post
    You have a habit of going very quiet whenever challenged with demonstrable facts or when one of your infamous anecdotal proof of concept has been demolished.

    I do agree with your comment on name calling and mental health, however, you've picked the wrong person to defend in our "Red Friend" he was infamous for his nasty name calling and threats over on the now dormant Red Dog Forum and has uses many offensive slurs on here. You may not be aware of the former but as a Mod you should be aware of what he has posted on he, but then maybe its down to the fact you have sympathy with what he posts, certainly your opinions would lead any reasonable person to think so.

    As for the sobriquet I have given him, I mean if one posts false statements, contradicts oneself and repeats the utter bilge pumped out by the right wing media, politicians and grifters on the internet who should know better, then it seems very appropriate. He is dumb all over, maybe when he can demonstrate he has actually considered the facts, rather than paroting some obvious lies I might reconsider.
    Again for the sake of clarification…had we still got the ‘like button’ - which would probably reduce the need for repetitive argument - the above would have earned a ‘click’ from me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swaledale View Post
    You have a habit of going very quiet whenever challenged with demonstrable facts or when one of your infamous anecdotal proof of concept has been demolished. .
    We all have our tactics Swale. yours is to deny the assertion, then claim its from a biased source, then call the originator names, then tell the originator and anyone else in your line of sight to **** off. Not my style, but to each their own.

    Glad however that you understand the comment about mental health. rA seemed to miss, and I hope you didn't, the point that such insults may be water off a duck's back to the intended receiver, but may impact those in hearing/reading proximity. Its something I'm fairly hot on, for example I've modified a bad habit I had (in fact I think I've used it on here) of 'picking on' correcting syntax and grammar errors - 90% is just laziness but I've decided to suppress my own smugness for the sake of the 10% who may have a genuine problem such as dyslexia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_Faber View Post
    I've modified a habit I had (in fact I think I've used it on here) of 'picking on' correcting syntax and grammar errors - 90% is just laziness but I've decided to suppress my own smugness for the sake of the 10% who may have a genuine problem such as dyslexia
    Sumwan cud of accused me, in the past, of doing the same to are language n a 2 av dun this.

    At first it was the English teacher in me that rose to the fore and I posted explanations, eg. the difference between your, you're and yore OR there, their and they're OR are and our.

    I think we all know the biggest "culprit" with the former. As you suggest, AF, most of it is just laziness, some is attributable to things like dyslexia. There's also a 3rd cause, namely, predictive text.

    I still greatly dislike of instead of have etc but have learnt to rein myself in.

    For the benefit of any posters who may have been a little confused by my opening abomination of a sentence, here it is again plus what it should be.

    Sumwan cud of accused me, in the past, of doing the same to are language n a 2 av dun this.
    Someone could have accused me, in the past, of doing the same to our language and I too have done this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_Faber View Post
    We all have our tactics Swale. yours is to deny the assertion, then claim its from a biased source, then call the originator names, then tell the originator and anyone else in your line of sight to **** off. Not my style, but to each their own.

    Glad however that you understand the comment about mental health. rA seemed to miss, and I hope you didn't, the point that such insults may be water off a duck's back to the intended receiver, but may impact those in hearing/reading proximity. Its something I'm fairly hot on, for example I've modified a bad habit I had (in fact I think I've used it on here) of 'picking on' correcting syntax and grammar errors - 90% is just laziness but I've decided to suppress my own smugness for the sake of the 10% who may have a genuine problem such as dyslexia
    Hmmm. I didn’t miss it Andy, I’m just inclined to agree with Swale on this one, which will doubtless cause you much mirth.
    As regards Tricky I do remember him being vile to a fellow Forest supporter both on here and his own forum. Can’t remember the guy’s name - it was a while ago - but he was clearly getting on a bit and, from what I gathered, he wasn’t very well either. Tricky’s ‘clock’s ticking’ jibes were relentlessly unkind so my sympathy is limited.

    He also tried it with me when he and another former poster got stuck into me for post after post about being a retired teacher. Tbh it didn’t make the slightest difference to me…water off a duck’s back…but it got personal and is something that you and GP were all too keen to do too. (Wonder why it’s always the same three.) I’ve no idea what the relevance of occupations, or former occupations, is, but it was all designed to undermine and you’re maybe not so squeaky clean yourself in that respect.

    On the subject of grammar. It’s easy to pick up on the ‘weaknesses’ of others and, imo, being literate is indeed a crucial tool, but you’re fortunate to have a decent command of language and might do well to remember that those with ‘difficulties’ often have at least as much to offer in terms of common sense contributions. As an example I give you ‘Mista’…a much missed (imo) former poster with very eccentric/poor literacy skills who made more sense - about both football and ‘life’ - than most.
    Last edited by ramAnag; 17-10-2024 at 10:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramAnag View Post
    Hmmm. I didn’t miss it Andy, I’m just inclined to agree with Swale on this one, which will doubtless cause you much mirth.
    As regards Tricky I do remember him being vile to a fellow Forest supporter both on here and his own forum. Can’t remember the guy’s name - it was a while ago - but he was clearly getting on a bit and, from what I gathered, he wasn’t very well either. Tricky’s ‘clock’s ticking’ jibes were relentlessly unkind so my sympathy is limited.

    He also tried it with me when he and another former poster got stuck into me for post after post about being a retired teacher. Tbh it didn’t make the slightest difference to me…water off a duck’s back…but it got personal and is something that you and GP were all too keen to do too. (Wonder why it’s always the same three.) I’ve no idea what the relevance of occupations, or former occupations, is, but it was all designed to undermine and you’re maybe not so squeaky clean yourself in that respect.

    On the subject of grammar. It’s easy to pick up on the ‘weaknesses’ of others and, imo, being literate is indeed a crucial tool, but you’re fortunate to have a decent command of language and might do well to remember that those with ‘difficulties’ often have at least as much to offer in terms of common sense contributions. As an example I give you ‘Mista’…a much missed (imo) former poster with very eccentric/poor literacy skills who made more sense - about both football and ‘life’ - than most.
    No its beyond mirth now rA, and beyond either using the overused epithet or even commenting on, its just expected. At least you're loyal, you did it on page 1 of the Brexit thread. End of discussion point if you can do the same

    I'm aware of Tricky's 'previous' but also some of the 'previous' of other forum members

    Not sure you'll find a lot of reference from me to your former profession, certainly not from a 'joining in' perspective. Not sure what your point is about 'squeaky clean' but I'll let it pass.
    Also not sure if you're agreeing with me or lecturing me on the grammar thing, but coincidentally it was, omongst other things, mista's quirky posts that got me thinking about my 'cleverdickyness' re language use. I agree with MA about of/have, there are a number of such teeth-grinding examples but I made a conscious decision to let as much as possible pass, no-one's prefect
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    Quote Originally Posted by ramAnag View Post
    Hmmm. I didn’t miss it Andy, I’m just inclined to agree with Swale on this one, which will doubtless cause you much mirth.
    As regards Tricky I do remember him being vile to a fellow Forest supporter both on here and his own forum. Can’t remember the guy’s name - it was a while ago - but he was clearly getting on a bit and, from what I gathered, he wasn’t very well either. Tricky’s ‘clock’s ticking’ jibes were relentlessly unkind so my sympathy is limited.

    He also tried it with me when he and another former poster got stuck into me for post after post about being a retired teacher. Tbh it didn’t make the slightest difference to me…water off a duck’s back…but it got personal and is something that you and GP were all too keen to do too. (Wonder why it’s always the same three.) I’ve no idea what the relevance of occupations, or former occupations, is, but it was all designed to undermine and you’re maybe not so squeaky clean yourself in that respect.

    On the subject of grammar. It’s easy to pick up on the ‘weaknesses’ of others and, imo, being literate is indeed a crucial tool, but you’re fortunate to have a decent command of language and might do well to remember that those with ‘difficulties’ often have at least as much to offer in terms of common sense contributions. As an example I give you ‘Mista’…a much missed (imo) former poster with very eccentric/poor literacy skills who made more sense - about both football and ‘life’ - than most.
    The poster you was looking for was Basie.
    Yes the very same old man, who used many various nasty insults on many posters, including DCM ones like Jacksdale.
    In the end he was undone, after I requested an IP address sweep, and it was uncovered he was using 8 different user names in his little game. They banned him.
    Be careful who you ally yourself with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_Faber View Post
    We all have our tactics Swale. yours is to deny the assertion, then claim its from a biased source, then call the originator names, then tell the originator and anyone else in your line of sight to **** off. Not my style, but to each their own.

    Glad however that you understand the comment about mental health. rA seemed to miss, and I hope you didn't, the point that such insults may be water off a duck's back to the intended receiver, but may impact those in hearing/reading proximity. Its something I'm fairly hot on, for example I've modified a bad habit I had (in fact I think I've used it on here) of 'picking on' correcting syntax and grammar errors - 90% is just laziness but I've decided to suppress my own smugness for the sake of the 10% who may have a genuine problem such as dyslexia
    I concur. My best mate, definitely fails to understand the difference between your and you're. But the fingers get sat on, rather than inflame the temper strops that will follow.

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    Mmmmm, the future of this forum thread has elicited 48ish posts which is interesting whilst everybody now seems to be retreating to their well stated positions perhaps a twitchy peace will ensue whilst the armoury is re-stocked!
    Ah well, at least theirs a footie match coming up and we can have the benefit of MA's excellent reports! Meanwhile I'm doing a good line in olive branches...... anyone??

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