Dan Crowley

[queenslandpie]

I felt this was undeniable. That doesn't mean we are a better team without him, and I noticed Palmer was playing at times exactly where I think Crowley is at his best. But still, I felt we were more urgent yesterday and I enjoyed watching that even if the end product frustrated quite a lot!

Reading the comments from Harrogate fans they were dismayed at their performance yesterday. I do feel they allowed us to look good whereas when better teams such as PV and Gillingham have visited they have employed tactics in midfield that block us. One goal was a poor return. I am not denying the 3 points but when the opposition play that badly we should be cleaning up and the number of goals from midfield is very poor. We even nearly let them back in at the end for a very undeserved point. Lets see how we get on against Doncaster in a couple of weeks. Should be a good barometer stick away from home. I would like at least 1 point.

[LeftPeg_Pie]

Like Crowley, great footballer and one of the best of this division but today I thought without him we showed a lot more urgency.

Given the space Harrogate afforded us, especially in central areas today, I think Crowley would’ve absolutely ran the show today and made them look silly.

[the_anticlough]

Given the space Harrogate afforded us, especially in central areas today, I think Crowley would’ve absolutely ran the show today and made them look silly.

That's more like it. The first half in particular was crying out for Crowley's inventiveness. We played with fire today, 1-0 against a really poor side. One of their shots at the end could have easily flown in and spoiled everything. Crowley was missed.

[the_anticlough]

That's nuts, we should keep the players who can get us up to League 1

Ruben is now playing 3 levels higher than when he last played for us....good job we didn't 'cash in', we might still be in the NL if we had.
DC might not belong in L2 either, but we've got him and players like that can drive you to promotions. If you have no ambitions you sell for modest short-term gains, but I don't think that apply to us under this ownership.

[MAD_MAGPIE]

That's nuts, we should keep the players who can get us up to League 1

Ruben is now playing 3 levels higher than when he last played for us....good job we didn't 'cash in', we might still be in the NL if we had.
DC might not belong in L2 either, but we've got him and players like that can drive you to promotions. If you have no ambitions you sell for modest short-term gains, but I don't think that apply to us under this ownership.

That's nuts, we should keep the players who can get us up to League 1

Ruben is now playing 3 levels higher than when he last played for us....good job we didn't 'cash in', we might still be in the NL if we had.
DC might not belong in L2 either, but we've got him and players like that can drive you to promotions. If you have no ambitions you sell for modest short-term gains, but I don't think that apply to us under this ownership.

Quite right we should hang onto our prized assets for as long as possible. Those on their way up will take the club up as well. Let’s also remember Kyle Wootton is now playing in league one as well and he also saw out his contract.

There will be scenarios like Ruben and Wootton and others like Macca (which I think the Macca one is the best for club and player as all parties benefit)

It’s a short career and players should not be begrudged wanting to play at a higher level. We just need them to hang around long enough to help this club to keep going forward and make the next step up as well.

[durhampie]

Quite right we should hang onto our prized assets for as long as possible. Those on their way up will take the club up as well. Let’s also remember Kyle Wootton is now playing in league one as well and he also saw out his contract.

There will be scenarios like Ruben and Wootton and others like Macca (which I think the Macca one is the best for club and player as all parties benefit)

It’s a short career and players should not be begrudged wanting to play at a higher level. We just need them to hang around long enough to help this club to keep going forward and make the next step up as well.

DC is not a team player... Ruben and Wootton were.. Thats the difference..

[applepie2]

DC is not a team player... Ruben and Wootton were.. Thats the difference..

Players' performances vary, and sometimes they are playing to orders. On a good day, Crowley is superb, and makes things happen for teammates; how you could describe him as "not a team player" when he is opening up defences and laying the ball on a plate for someone else to score is beyond me. On other occasions, he doesn't always spot the pass, or other players don't go on the right runs, and Crowley pirouettes looking for an opportunity.

A few times in recent matches, he has played deep. Sometimes it has looked very much that he has been instructed to do so, to play a defensive midfield role. Given that most of his experience is as an attacking midfielder, he's done pretty well when asked to fill in for Palmer/Abbott/Robertson. If he has played deep when he should have been attacking, I'm sure Maynard will have made his expectations clear. What is absolutely clear to me is that Crowley has usually been better than average for us, and often much better than average - team player or not.

[matt_magpie]

Players' performances vary, and sometimes they are playing to orders. On a good day, Crowley is superb, and makes things happen for teammates; how you could describe him as "not a team player" when he is opening up defences and laying the ball on a plate for someone else to score is beyond me. On other occasions, he doesn't always spot the pass, or other players don't go on the right runs, and Crowley pirouettes looking for an opportunity.

A few times in recent matches, he has played deep. Sometimes it has looked very much that he has been instructed to do so, to play a defensive midfield role. Given that most of his experience is as an attacking midfielder, he's done pretty well when asked to fill in for Palmer/Abbott/Robertson. If he has played deep when he should have been attacking, I'm sure Maynard will have made his expectations clear. What is absolutely clear to me is that Crowley has usually been better than average for us, and often much better than average - team player or not.

SM described why Crowley went deep in the Barrow game as he wanted someone who could dribble past their press which I thought was quite insightful regardless if people agree.
I don’t like seeing him back there when we already have 2 holding there.
That said when he does do it most of the time he glided past a couple of their strikers, lays it off and then usually gets it back deeper in their half, so on that basis it kind of works.

[Elite_Pie]

DC is not a team player...

It's amazing how you can see so many games, and at the same time see so little!

[the_anticlough]

It's amazing how you can see so many games, and at the same time see so little!

It's starting to get a bit disturbing now...

Luke Williams was a rubbish manager for us
Dan Crowley is a rubbish player for us
Cedwyn Scott is God