Sir Jim Ratcliffe Says

[baggieal]

Apologies for not having read the whole thread. Only opened it to say I couldn't give a fug what Ratcliffe had said and stumbled across this. I have no skin in this debate but just wondered whether you knew how much this billionaire had contributed to our coffers over the years before leaving for Monaco? I genuinely don't but if you've got the figures to hand it may add some context. Cheers in advance .

Come on Regis do your homework before coming on this board. Data and facts please mate 😂😂

Before he left for Monaco, Ratcliffe was the UK?s third-highest individual taxpayer, paying ?110m to the exchequer in 2017-18, according to the Sunday Times tax list.

[baggieal]

Come on Regis do your homework before coming on this board. Data and facts please mate 😂😂

Before he left for Monaco, Ratcliffe was the UK?s third-highest individual taxpayer, paying ?110m to the exchequer in 2017-18, according to the Sunday Times tax list.

Some could say like Regis he contributed nothing but others could say the 110 million Ratcliffe paid before rightly going to Monaco was peanuts compared to approx 5 billion spent on illegal immigration in 2025 😭😭😭😭😭

How much has the tool makers son paid? Some could say if he paid for his corporate hospitality at the Emirates this indirectly would contribute towards taxation 😭😭😭

[Omegstrat6]

I'm so glad you weren't my teacher. "Know your place - you're factory fodder"

The problem is not the younger generation, it's the Boomers.

To be fair, I don't think that is what Leics. is saying 123. What is wrong in saying that it is important to encourage pupils to be ambitious but to also recognise that we all have our individual capabilities? Surely we are all better at some things than others and have our limitations and that the important thing is that young people, regardless of background, are given the opportunities to develop and become the best they can?

Also, if there are no vacancies for the jobs individuals would like and are qualified for, what is wrong in taking up jobs that may be unattractive and minimum wage if the alternative is sitting on benefits? Social media in particular seems to have promoted a degree of expectation that previous generations did not have. I have personally known more than a few young people who would rather sit at home than take jobs they don't "like" but, of course, this is because this is an option open to them if mum and dad can support them. I also know some young people on the other hand with a great work ethic, who want to get on and be independent and struggle through while paying bills and trying to afford excessive rent.

I certainly appreciate that in today's economic climate it is hard for young people to get jobs with far fewer opportunities to pick up even positions in retail or hospitality for example that were far more plentiful a decade of so ago. As recent reports by the BBC reveal-largely depending on where they live- far too many young people desperate for jobs also send in hundreds of applications to no avail regardless of their qualifications. The jobs simply are not there in some areas of the UK. That said, it is also impossible to ignore the sharp increase in the numbers of young people not even looking for work post Covid due to various mental health issues.

Boomers get a bad rap from younger generations for creating the situation they find themselves in and whilst it is undoubtedly true that the decisions of some Boomers have greatly shaped today's world, that doesn't mean all Boomers are guilty of this. Similarly, Boomers are said to point out what they see as the failings of some of the younger generations. Doubtless, again, there are elements of truth in this but not all of these younger generations are guilty of these.

We all make generalisations and these are usually based on some elements of demonstrable truth but it's wrong to tar everyone with the same brush.

Then again, I am technically a Boomer myself 😁

[Omegstrat6]

Some could say like Regis he contributed nothing but others could say the 110 million Ratcliffe paid before rightly going to Monaco was peanuts compared to approx 5 billion spent on illegal immigration in 2025 😭😭😭😭😭

How much has the tool makers son paid? Some could say if he paid for his corporate hospitality at the Emirates this indirectly would contribute towards taxation 😭😭😭

£5 billion seems incorrect Al? The House of Commons Library gives the figure of £2.8 billion for 2024 and a Reuters fact check for 2024/25 says the UK spent approx £108 million a month on housing asylum seekers as opposed to the grossly exaggerated figure of £1 billion a month doing the rounds on social media. This would equate to £1.3 billion that financial year for housing alone making the total of £2.8 billion a year more likely than £5 billion. Still way too much of course.

As for Ratcliffe, I'm sure he paid a considerable amount of personal tax whilst he was in the UK and whilst his motives for moving to Monaco were likely varied I'm sure that, aside from climate/ culture, the over riding factor was tax saving. He has more than enough money himself though, so he could certainly still have afforded to remain in the UK. Entirely up to him where he choses to live or what he does with his money, but making some of those comments just seems a tad hypocritical given that his decision to move abroad was mostly driven by tax avoidance.

[baggieal]

£5 billion seems incorrect Al? The House of Commons Library gives the figure of £2.8 billion for 2024 and a Reuters fact check for 2024/25 says the UK spent approx £108 million a month on housing asylum seekers as opposed to the grossly exaggerated figure of £1 billion a month doing the rounds on social media. This would equate to £1.3 billion that financial year for housing alone making the total of £2.8 billion a year more likely than £5 billion. Still way too much of course.

As for Ratcliffe, I'm sure he paid a considerable amount of personal tax whilst he was in the UK and whilst his motives for moving to Monaco were likely varied I'm sure that, aside from climate/ culture, the over riding factor was tax saving. He has more than enough money himself though, so he could certainly still have afforded to remain in the UK. Entirely up to him where he choses to live or what he does with his money, but making some of those comments just seems a tad hypocritical given that his decision to move abroad was mostly driven by tax avoidance.

Evening Omeg and hope you do not get any stick tomorrow from the local lads 😭

This is what?s I found below but hey who knows as if it was zero it could boost our military spending to the promised 3.5% of GDP

Key Cost Estimates & Figures (2025)
Asylum System Total Cost: The entire asylum system was estimated to cost the UK around ?3 billion a year.
Asylum Accommodation (Hotels): The use of hotels to house asylum seekers was a major expense, costing approximately ?5.7 million per day in the 2024-2025 financial year.
Cost Per Illegal Immigrant: One estimate from the political party Reform UK in late 2025 suggested that each "illegal migrant" costs the taxpayer an average of ?41,000 a year.
Border & Enforcement Spending: The Home Office's budget for asylum, border, visa, and passport operations points to spending of "a little less than ?4 billion in 2024-25".

In terms of Ratcliffe his words were very clumsy but the overall content was correct. Benefits are out of control ( mainly whites ) and if it were me I would offer an individual a couple of jobs after perhaps 1 year in drawing benefits - any refusal would stop benefits. Even cleaning graffiti off walls or community work should be offered. I was brought up with the meaning of there?s no such thing has a free lunch.

As for Ratcliffe leaving the UK honestly - I think me or you would do the same out of principle. Perhaps tax rules should be changed or incentives given for billionaires to stay and invest.

Good luck tomorrow Omeg and you may escape any grief next season 😭😭

[baggiematt]

Evening Omeg and hope you do not get any stick tomorrow from the local lads 😭

This is what?s I found below but hey who knows as if it was zero it could boost our military spending to the promised 3.5% of GDP

Key Cost Estimates & Figures (2025)
Asylum System Total Cost: The entire asylum system was estimated to cost the UK around ?3 billion a year.
Asylum Accommodation (Hotels): The use of hotels to house asylum seekers was a major expense, costing approximately ?5.7 million per day in the 2024-2025 financial year.
Cost Per Illegal Immigrant: One estimate from the political party Reform UK in late 2025 suggested that each "illegal migrant" costs the taxpayer an average of ?41,000 a year.
Border & Enforcement Spending: The Home Office's budget for asylum, border, visa, and passport operations points to spending of "a little less than ?4 billion in 2024-25".

In terms of Ratcliffe his words were very clumsy but the overall content was correct. Benefits are out of control ( mainly whites ) and if it were me I would offer an individual a couple of jobs after perhaps 1 year in drawing benefits - any refusal would stop benefits. Even cleaning graffiti off walls or community work should be offered. I was brought up with the meaning of there?s no such thing has a free lunch.

As for Ratcliffe leaving the UK honestly - I think me or you would do the same out of principle. Perhaps tax rules should be changed or incentives given for billionaires to stay and invest.

Good luck tomorrow Omeg and you may escape any grief next season 😭😭

They let Diane Abbott do the maths with an abacus for illegal migrants.

[Albionic68]

They let Diane Abbott do the maths with an abacus for illegal migrants.

I don't know about that Matt, but I strongly suspect she had something to do with our summer recruitment drive. Something definitely didn't add up there 😉 .

[Omegstrat6]

Evening Omeg and hope you do not get any stick tomorrow from the local lads 😭

This is what?s I found below but hey who knows as if it was zero it could boost our military spending to the promised 3.5% of GDP

Key Cost Estimates & Figures (2025)
Asylum System Total Cost: The entire asylum system was estimated to cost the UK around ?3 billion a year.
Asylum Accommodation (Hotels): The use of hotels to house asylum seekers was a major expense, costing approximately ?5.7 million per day in the 2024-2025 financial year.
Cost Per Illegal Immigrant: One estimate from the political party Reform UK in late 2025 suggested that each "illegal migrant" costs the taxpayer an average of ?41,000 a year.
Border & Enforcement Spending: The Home Office's budget for asylum, border, visa, and passport operations points to spending of "a little less than ?4 billion in 2024-25".

In terms of Ratcliffe his words were very clumsy but the overall content was correct. Benefits are out of control ( mainly whites ) and if it were me I would offer an individual a couple of jobs after perhaps 1 year in drawing benefits - any refusal would stop benefits. Even cleaning graffiti off walls or community work should be offered. I was brought up with the meaning of there?s no such thing has a free lunch.

As for Ratcliffe leaving the UK honestly - I think me or you would do the same out of principle. Perhaps tax rules should be changed or incentives given for billionaires to stay and invest.

Good luck tomorrow Omeg and you may escape any grief next season 😭😭

Evening Al, hope you are good. Yep, I'm sure that my Canary supporting colleagues won't waste the opportunity to gloat tomorrow but you're right, the bigger worry is for next season if we don't manage to stay up! 😞

[baggieal]

They let Diane Abbott do the maths with an abacus for illegal migrants.

FFS - is she doing the rounds or riding the nutters joy stick 😭😭

[baggieal]

I don't know about that Matt, but I strongly suspect she had something to do with our summer recruitment drive. Something definitely didn't add up there 😉 .

It would be a special king size with her and Maja in bed - that?s for sure!