Election Year or Fear!

[Andy_Faber]

Its truly bizarre that at this stage with no clear indication as to what has happened and what the effects will be on Iran and the wider world economy and overall security, that anyone is rejoicing.

But then the world is full of dumb ****ers!

So now you’re second guessing / criticising / name calling the reaction of the lived experience of refugees from the Iranian regime. I’ll let them know.

[swaledale]

So now you’re second guessing / criticising / name calling the reaction of the lived experience of refugees from the Iranian regime. I’ll let them know.

No I'm pointing out the reality. Which is, unless his successor as Supreme leader is a complete change from the one thats been killed, then what is there to rejoice about?

Ayatollah Ali Khamenei was 86, a succession plan will already be in place, the Revolutionary Guard are still in power, its early days, so its not exactly clear at this point how or if there will be regime change or if there is, whether that will be to the benefit of the "ordinary" Iranian or Iran as a nation.

So yes anybody rejoicing at this moment in time, given the history of how the US interfering in the Middle East generally turns out, aneeds to think about the bigger picture rather than simply rejoice because one despotic leader has been killed.

Cautious optimism possibly, though in the absence of any apparent pan as to what happens now even that is probably premature.

Meanwhile the impact of this action on the economy and security of the wider world remains to be seen.

I hope thats a simple enough explanantion for you.

[SithHappens]

Interesting Reform want to ban postal voting. Yet he voted by post in last year's general election

[Andy_Faber]

Interesting Reform want to ban postal voting. Yet he voted by post in last year's general election

I think they are spot-on

It’s just too great an opportunity to pass on for those desperate enough

I’d never do it at an election but I had four family members on duty to help me to common goal last week, specifically to get Rush tickets and I’m sure the touts ran a more sophisticated operation. You may have done similar to get Derby play-off tickets or know someone who did, it’s all the same, a form of cheating to achieve an objective

And, much as I wish it wasn’t, politics is more important to many than music

[ramAnag]

Interesting Reform want to ban postal voting. Yet he voted by post in last year's general election

Utterly ridiculous to want to ban postal voting. We’ve voted by post in every election for the last decade, the reason being that we’re usually out of the country for about eight weeks of the year and have no wish to sacrifice our right to vote. Couple that with the fact that many elderly or disabled people just wouldn't make it to the ballot box - especially in poor/winter weather - and there are two damned good reasons for retaining postal votes. Farage really is behaving like a cry baby.

[SithHappens]

I think they are spot-on

It’s just too great an opportunity to pass on for those desperate enough

I’d never do it at an election but I had four family members on duty to help me to common goal last week, specifically to get Rush tickets and I’m sure the touts ran a more sophisticated operation. You may have done similar to get Derby play-off tickets or know someone who did, it’s all the same, a form of cheating to achieve an objective

And, much as I wish it wasn’t, politics is more important to many than music

How can he say ban it though when he did it? How do we know he did it and wasn't coherced to vote for someone he didn't want to?

[Andy_Faber]

How can he say ban it though when he did it? How do we know he did it and wasn't coherced to vote for someone he didn't want to?

Not judging him. And not surprised he’s been hypocritical, he’s a politician after all. But we’re now well into the 21st century and IMO snail mail should be limited to those genuinely in need of it and (if they aren’t there already) other avenues of cheating removed

[SithHappens]

Utterly ridiculous to want to ban postal voting. We?ve voted by post in every election for the last decade, the reason being that we?re usually out of the country for about eight weeks of the year and have no wish to sacrifice our right to vote. Couple that with the fact that many elderly or disabled people just wouldn't make it to the ballot box - especially in poor/winter weather - and there are two damned good reasons for retaining postal votes. Farage really is behaving like a cry baby.

I have before when I was going to be away. No idea who my wife voted for, didn't ask im sure the vast majority of people who vote by post are legitimate, its only become an issue because Reform feel they have been robbed by 'bloody foreigners' of their rightful win. They aren't even hiding their racism in their response to the loss on Thursday.

[ramAnag]

I have before when I was going to be away. No idea who my wife voted for, didn't ask im sure the vast majority of people who vote by post are legitimate, its only become an issue because Reform feel they have been robbed by 'bloody foreigners' of their rightful win. They aren't even hiding their racism in their response to the loss on Thursday.

Can be tricky though Sith. Either last month or late January we both got notification that our postal vote entitlement had expired and asked if we wished to renew, which we’ve done.
Around ten years ago there seemed to be a vote of some description every few months so we got into the habit then. I’m not organised enough to sort it for each time we go away and I’m certainly not sufficiently organised to avoid our holidays coinciding with any elections so I prefer just to set it up for whatever the period of time is, either 2 or 3 years…can’t remember.
I’m sure you’re right, those who genuinely benefit will vastly outnumber those who wish to use the system fraudulently, so why change something that seems, in my experience at least, to work well.

Reform UK and Labour were both well beaten. Starmer registered his disappointment, as he should have. In comparison Farage hasn’t stopped whining.

[SithHappens]

Can be tricky though Sith. Either last month or late January we both got notification that our postal vote entitlement had expired and asked if we wished to renew, which we?ve done.
Around ten years ago there seemed to be a vote of some description every few months so we got into the habit then. I?m not organised enough to sort it for each time we go away and I?m certainly not sufficiently organised to avoid our holidays coinciding with any elections so I prefer just to set it up for whatever the period of time is, either 2 or 3 years?can?t remember.
I?m sure you?re right, those who genuinely benefit will vastly outnumber those who wish to use the system fraudulently, so why change something that seems, in my experience at least, to work well.

Reform UK and Labour were both well beaten. Starmer registered his disappointment, as he should have. In comparison Farage hasn?t stopped whining.

Badenoch also weighing in on the family voting but that's a bit like AFC Kilburn moaning Man City haven't had their charges revealed yet

Also don't recall Farage complaining about postal votes in the eu referendum

All a bit like Forest players laughing about how much they love VAR after they got two very dubious decisions in their favour on the play off final but haven't stopped whining since