O/T Democracy

[BigLadonOS]

BL you have now introduced a new word ..............hate
don't recall anyone saying you hate immigrants
Correct me if I'm wrong

Ex, It has been implied that I am a xenophobe a racist etc so yes the word hate is very much to the forefront of this and why WCM has always looked for any reason to try and prove his point but if you are unhappy with the word hate please read it as "against" instead. But the question still remains the same. The language used in that post is the same as the one I originally posted so I ask what or how does WCM read the cow post?

[BigLadonOS]

Good groef BIGLAD.

It was not my opinion. I was simply quoting what you had written. I was repeating what is in fact your opinion. You made the post.

I hope this is clear.

See below a copy of your post - for the last time hopefully. But realise you may still want to deny it.

"The true effect of immigration is seen in housing, healthcare, crime and education more than jobs and is the main reason I voted to leave. We are taking in more people than our infrastructure can handle and it needs to stop now because as the saying goes " the rich get richer while the poor get poorer" Rich people would like nothing more than to keep the working classes down trodden where they think we belong."

Are you so stupid that you do not realise that you made an informed choice of what I wrote meant when you read it? Do you not know that when you do that you form an opinion of what you think it meant? By posting what I sad as a quote you have decided that what I wrote in YOUR OPINION meant I was saying immigration was my main reason for wanting to leave.

[Silly-miller]

A lot of insults going off in this thread can we not make our points without them?

[BigLadonOS]

A lot of insults going off in this thread can we not make our points without them?

The only insult is to WCM capacity to understand that his opinion can be wrong and that by simply reading a bit of text he can tell me what I was thinking without even asking me what I wrote meant. Unreal.

[KerrAvon]

So Australia, Austria, the Czech Republic, Denmark, France, Germany, Hungary, Iceland, Norway, Spain, and Sweden, none of whom have private schools are now all communist??!

You need to check your Momentum Fact Sheet. A quick Google has yet to reveal any of your countries that have banned private schools.

Perhaps they have more respect for individual freedom of choice than Labour?

I don't know about Communist but isn't the seizure of property and it's 'redistribution' slightly Mugabe-esque?

Mugabe - another socialist. Zimbabwe - another shining example of Socialist economics

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/3...stralia-2016-9

[mikemiller]

You need to check your Momentum Fact Sheet. A quick Google has yet to reveal any of your countries that have banned private schools.

Perhaps they have more respect for individual freedom of choice than Labour?

I don't know about Communist but isn't the seizure of property and it's 'redistribution' slightly Mugabe-esque?

Mugabe - another socialist. Zimbabwe - another shining example of Socialist economics

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/3...stralia-2016-9

Freedom of choice in education f you are rich, not if you are poor.
Mugabe never redistributed much of the wealth that was rightly taken away from the white minority ruling class - so why are you calling him a "socialist"

[KerrAvon]

Freedom of choice in education f you are rich, not if you are poor.
Mugabe never redistributed much of the wealth that was rightly taken away from the white minority ruling class - so why are you calling him a "socialist"

Roly has sufficient wealth to own two cars (even if he doesn’t really used one of them). Some people can’t afford one. Raging was off on his jollies a few weeks ago (Crete?), whereas some people can’t afford a holiday. Many on here will choose to spend money following Rotherham – a choice that will be beyond the financial clout of others.

Some people choose to use their hard earned to try to give their kids the best start they can by taking them out of a state education system that fails so many. Many of them will scrimp and save to do it. Labour want to deny that choice and seize the assets of private schools for ‘redistribution’. That’s why I mentioned the Socialist, Mugabe.

When you say that 'wealth that was rightly taken away from the white minority ruling class', I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you have forgotten about the murders, rapes and arsons that were used to enforce that.

[mikemiller]

When you say that 'wealth that was rightly taken away from the white minority ruling class', I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you have forgotten about the murders, rapes and arsons that were used to enforce that.

How did the white minority achieve its position of power in the first place? Mugabe was one of the military figures who led a national liberation struggle in the developing world against the remnants of old imperialism. Other than you (!), can't think of many people who would describe him as a "Socialist" though.

Also re Brexit - "Big business" may well have a completely different political analysis than somebody running a small business/corner shop - which is probably true in this case.

You sure that you're not Kempo?

[ragingpup]

You need to check your Momentum Fact Sheet. A quick Google has yet to reveal any of your countries that have banned private schools.

Perhaps they have more respect for individual freedom of choice than Labour?

I don't know about Communist but isn't the seizure of property and it's 'redistribution' slightly Mugabe-esque?

Mugabe - another socialist. Zimbabwe - another shining example of Socialist economics

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/3...stralia-2016-9

Where did I say that private schools are banned in these schools. The point is that there are comparatively much fewer than here, some with hardly any. Very little public funds go into their creation and maintenance, unlike here.

We can argue the pros and cons as much as you like but these countries can hardly be called communist which was the point I was making

[KerrAvon]

Where did I say that private schools are banned in these schools. The point is that there are comparatively much fewer than here, some with hardly any. Very little public funds go into their creation and maintenance, unlike here.

We can argue the pros and cons as much as you like but these countries can hardly be called communist which was the point I was making

So when you said that those countries had no private schools, you meant not as many as the UK? So you presumably accept that in proposing to ban private schools, Labour is taking a more extreme position than the countries you mention?

What funds do you say go into the creation and maintenance of private schools in the UK? I suspect that your Momentum Fact s Sheet may have let you down again…

You are right that we could argue the pros and cons of Labour proposing to limit the rights of people to make choices about their children’s’ education. The Pro list is going to be pretty short though.