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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryTheTerror View Post
    You talk about risk but ignore the biggest risk factor of them all with regard to this virus, AGE.
    I have not ignored age in the slightest, and the age groups that are most at risk of death have already been covered by current Cohorts, and this should be completed.

    Now we are heading towards the new Cohorts where deaths are less likely, to me the people who are at most risk of catching this and suffering from severe symptoms are who we should be targeting, and those who are in full time, public facing and high density working environments and should be considered for a bit of que jumping, be that preventing waste, or re-arranging appointments.

    When Cohort 6 is complete, it is possible we should have vaccinated 2.5m people, and i dont think the numbers of the groups of employees i am talking about will be that big, especially when some might have already been caught by waste reduction.
    Last edited by Chick A Saw; 01-03-2021 at 04:49 PM.

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    That's fair. Don't you consider the opinion of JCVI that trying to do what you suggest will have a seriously detrimental effect on the speed of the rollout of the vaccination program putting more folk at risk?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chick A Saw View Post
    I know you dont like reading my posts, bit i implore you to read this and tell me what part of the following do you think says its only teachers i want ahead of myself?

    So to be clear, my personal opinion is that ALL public facing and high density workplace employees who are ALL facing similar risk levels, should ALL be prioritized ahead of employees who are working from home or at very little risk. And for reasons i have put forward recently, i dont think that is such a hard thing to achieve.

    I agree with the government as well, but if it can be done, it should be done.
    I can see where you are coming from I would not mind people who are more at risk than me receiving the vaccine before me as I am just 60 in fine health reasonably fit and on furlough I think chance of me catching it or dying from it are very small.The problem is who should get my place a teacher a bus driver a cleaner a policeman a parent with children at home etc etc.I think the only way they could get it exactly right is to take each person check out what makes them think they should be next then give every person in country a place that would be fairest way but who would decide if a bus driver or a police man comes first or a school cleaner or a parent with three or more school age children?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeats 62 View Post
    Looks like it OA. That's hell of a lot of commuting going on there though,especially at this crucial time of the crisis. Strange indeed.
    It is a lot of commuting. Would that be a usual route for an offshore worker to come home or is it likely someone is trying to f*ck the system?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tHeArAb View Post
    It is a lot of commuting. Would that be a usual route for an offshore worker to come home or is it likely someone is trying to f*ck the system?
    I was thinking probably normal until you planted that seed .

    Over to you Offshore, you will know better than us. That amount of travel/changes does seem a wee bit OTT to me , but I'm not in the oil industry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chick A Saw View Post
    It is a big undertaking, but how much of a detrimental effect would there be on the wider effort, especially if a head start is made with waste control.
    Big enough for them to recommend against it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryTheTerror View Post
    Big enough for them to recommend against it.
    The JCVI are not the ones who are collating the lists for who is next in line to receive the vaccine though. That is down to the NHS delivering the vaccine, and the once who are doing such a fantastic job in doing so. How hard is it to change the order that is probably done weeks in advance? Already has to be done on a smaller scale when someone takes up a waste spot surely!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chick A Saw View Post
    The JCVI are not the ones who are collating the lists for who is next in line to receive the vaccine though. That is down to the NHS delivering the vaccine, and the once who are doing such a fantastic job in doing so. How hard is it to change the order that is probably done weeks in advance? Already has to be done on a smaller scale when someone takes up a waste spot surely!
    I'd imagine going around the whole country dividing each individual up into categories depending on their occupation would be a bit of a headf*ck. Separating them from the others on the NHS database to figure out who is still to receive the vaccine would be another headf*ck. It's not going to happen. The list has been prioritised, quite rightly, in terms of who is more likely to die and it has been proven, the older you are, the more likely you are to die of Covid.

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    So encouraging seeing the number of new cases & deaths drop so rapidly each day. Just six weeks ago we were having almost 70,000 new cases and 1300 new deaths each day. Today we had just over 5000 new cases and 100 deaths. Mon the vaccine. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

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    And on that puss shutter i will make no further comment!

    I wanted to put this out later as i normally do, but here we are now!

    February seems to be a bit of a pivotal month in the fight against this bloody virus. The first day saw the daily figures drop below 800 since the New Year peak, but when the daily and 7 day averages aligned, they stayed stubbornly within the 800s for 2 weeks and really didnt look like they were gonna budge. But as last week developed, i, and i am sure others on here noticed a change. And today we had reported a daily figure of 386 that is around a third of the highest figure of the month of 1149. Yes that superb figure is from a Sunday, and i have everything crossed that this continues and that we can be released from this madness early!

    The Vaccine progress.

    Over 80s, 96.8%,
    75-79, 98.5%,
    70-74, 99%, (98.9)
    65-69, 94.6%, (94.5)
    60-64, 33.2%, (32.1)
    55-59, 27.8%, (26.9)
    50-54, 22.4%, (21.6)
    40-49, 17.4%, (16.9)
    30-39, 12.4%, (12.2)
    16-29, 8%, (7.9)

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