The Corona Virus

[Balanbam00]

Yeah ,well I got this straight out of the Beano, but I did not see the small print so, Fake News ! .

https://www.jpost.com/health-science...ovid-19-625498

https://www.jpost.com/health-science...is-week-626747

[The Bedlington Terrier]

What I don't get sinkov is IF our NHS frontline workers are adequately supplied with proper and effective PPE, why are they dying?

Something just does not add up does it?

[sinkov]

What I don't get sinkov is IF our NHS frontline workers are adequately supplied with proper and effective PPE, why are they dying?

Something just does not add up does it?

See the story in post 557 BT. It seems to me there is no such thing as 100% protection from Covid 19.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Something definitely fishy though sinkov, or is the Guardian to blame for reporting it?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...box=1588493334

[sinkov]

Something definitely fishy though sinkov, or is the Guardian to blame for reporting it?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...box=1588493334

Here we go again BT, the government being blamed for something which is the responsibilty of the NHS.

"BMA council chair Dr Chaand Nagpaul said the survey response on PPE was “a damning indictment of the government’s abject failure to make sure healthcare workers across the country are being supplied with the life-saving kit they should be”.

Why does the BMA not more accurately say this is “a damning indictment of the NHS’s abject failure to make sure healthcare workers across the country are being supplied with the life-saving kit they should be"

Don't bother answering though BT, We both already know the answer don't we.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

If 59er's assertion that "NHS central" is responsible for England's national PPE supply and Hancock's Half Hour is their boss, who should carry the can?

[sinkov]

If 59er's assertion that "NHS central" is responsible for England's national PPE supply and Hancock's Half Hour is their boss, who should carry the can?

The people responsible for provision of PPE. The NHS website says it them. If the cap fits, wear it.

Well over one million employees, £149 million budget and a career Tory politician has to wipe their arses for them, I think our best hope is that Mr Trump buys it out, it's fecking useless as it is, can't save our lives, can't save the lives of it's own staff, can't even order it's own PPE. Stay home, stay safe, good advice.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

The media driven panic continues...

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coron...cid=spartanntp

Well, he would say that wouldn't he?

[1959_60]

To be fair to Hancock, he DOES take responsibility for the NHS during his briefings.

Mind you, he has no choice. He is their boss.

Similar to what Super said about our armed forces being short of v1tal equipment during recent conflicts. You COULD blame the Army, Air Force or Vavy for these shortages but the buck stops with the Government who decide how much to put in the defence budget and how the money is spent. Like the NHS, the Government will be advised by the military "experts" but the buck stops with the Defence Minister.
Ben Wallace will decide and be responsible for how many aircraft carriers we have and making sure our front line forces are adequately kitted out.
You COULD blame the army/air force/navy if the kit is insufficient, but the buck stops with Wallace.
i can't understand why you are arguing otherwise Sinkov?

[sinkov]

To be fair to Hancock, he DOES take responsibility for the NHS during his briefings.

Mind you, he has no choice. He is their boss.

Similar to what Super said about our armed forces being short of v1tal equipment during recent conflicts. You COULD blame the Army, Air Force or Vavy for these shortages but the buck stops with the Government who decide how much to put in the defence budget and how the money is spent. Like the NHS, the Government will be advised by the military "experts" but the buck stops with the Defence Minister.
Ben Wallace will decide and be responsible for how many aircraft carriers we have and making sure our front line forces are adequately kitted out.
You COULD blame the army/air force/navy if the kit is insufficient, but the buck stops with Wallace.
i can't understand why you are arguing otherwise Sinkov?

BT, bless him, understands quite well the point I'm making 59. You fail to, I'm not sure exactly why, blame falling squarely onto the shoulders of those responsible for failings is not a new or even contentious principal.

"However, the issue I was concerned about was the death of a doctor here in Bolton down to a lack of PPE. Sinkov quite rightly shot me down in flames for blaming Hancock personally. Sinkov provided the full list Board of Directors of our Royal Bolton NHS Trust. What overwhelms me is the fact COBRA still allows this type of NHS structure to stay in place right across England. My wife who went through hell and high water to get her mam the treatment she needed when she got cancer respects the doctors and nurses very highly, but has no time whatsoever for the "management".